# SDMB Fantasy Football DYNASTY League: Year Nine **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 11, 2017, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357 "2017-08-11T19:38:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/422 "2017-10-15T15:21:26Z")
I’d like it pushed through, if possible. I’d need to tweak my roster a bit for starters this morning if it does go through. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/423 "2017-10-15T15:26:24Z")
Okay, done. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/424 "2017-10-15T17:24:41Z")
Oh fuck the world Rodgers is hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/425 "2017-10-15T18:10:33Z")
> [@Jules\_Andre](#): > > I don’t have a strong preference (I don’t remember what we normally did in this league), but I wouldn’t be against it. I’m not starting Mack this week anyway. > > I hope I don’t look back on this and think I made a bad move. I have a gut feeling that I will regret this, because I think Cooper might be Braylon Edwards and I am really high on Mack. But, I’m in a weird spot where I need to make a move to try to capitalize on a better-than-expected start; yet, my assets are mostly not yet matured so I’m limited in scope. > > Cooper has at least proven he _can_ be an upper-tier WR. I watched all his snaps this year, and he’s still getting open, even while limited by a minor injury. I think his slow start is mental, so I’m hoping for a rebound. At least I’m buying at the absolute bottom, I guess. To me, Cooper is far more valuable than Mack at least in this format. I would probably have given up Abdullah for him if I needed a WR. Mack may outproduce Cooper the rest of the year but long term there’s no chance. Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/426 "2017-10-15T19:11:15Z")
Broken collarbone for Rodgers. Rough. Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/427 "2017-10-15T22:45:54Z")
Not only is Rodgers likely out, but the reason I took Kizer over Mahomes is so I’d have a backup quarterback in an emergency, and Kizer may not even play significantly in the next few games. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2017, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/428 "2017-10-16T01:27:01Z")
Hundley didn’t look terrible. He’s probably not going to do much for Jordy Nelson’s value, but he could probably give you 225/1 per game. Kevin Hogan for a draft pick? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/429 "2017-10-17T19:48:26Z")
If anyone is looking for QB help, I could be convinced to part with Brees, Jameis Winston, or Trevor Siemian for the right package. ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/430 "2017-10-18T02:12:41Z")
Another trade to announce: \*\* HungryHungryHaruspex trades:\*\* WR Jordan Matthews RB Andre Ellington **Warner’s Brothers trades:** WR Doug Baldwin RB CJ Spiller ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/431 "2017-10-18T05:54:54Z")
That seems like a really imbalanced trade. Spiller and Ellington are both basically worthless (Ellington had a decent run as a third down back for a few weeks but got no touches this week and has no future when David Johnson returns, he also got no interest in the free agent market) and Doug Baldwin is several tiers better than Jordan Matthews. I’m not sure what Dale is thinking here. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/432 "2017-10-18T14:03:03Z")
This league has a weird fascination with both Ellington and Spiller. I don’t remember all the specifics, but I know that both have been traded multiple times, often for well above their value. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/433 "2017-10-18T16:35:37Z")
I’ve scored the most or second-most points three weeks in a row, and I’m 45 points ahead of Retro and nearly a hundred points ahead of everyone else. Despite that, I’m still essentially tied in the division because Beef keeps winning pattycake games. Bah! > [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > If anyone is looking for QB help, I could be convinced to part with Brees, Jameis Winston, or Trevor Siemian for the right package. I’ll give you my 2018 first-rounder for Winston. Not sure what you’re looking for in terms of current players but I’m not too interested in trading away other starters since I’m in win-now mode. Having said that, I would probably swap Matt Ryan for him straight up. > [@SenorBeef](#): > > That seems like a really imbalanced trade. Spiller and Ellington are both basically worthless (Ellington had a decent run as a third down back for a few weeks but got no touches this week and has no future when David Johnson returns, he also got no interest in the free agent market) and Doug Baldwin is several tiers better than Jordan Matthews. I’m not sure what Dale is thinking here. Matthews has been a PPR monster in the past, but Baldwin has been an any-format monster in the past and his current situation is way better. So yeah, I don’t understand this trade at all. In other leagues, I’d probably actually object to it. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/434 "2017-10-18T16:51:12Z")
Even without the Baldwin trade, **Jules** is projected to have the most points going forward this season, and his team could be a monster for years. He’s got Fournette, Jordan Howard, Joe Mixon _and_ Derrick Henry, so if Chris Carson comes back healthy he’ll have five RB1 candidates next year. He’s also got T.Y. Hilton, Diggs and Amari Cooper, which is a near-great WR trio. Evan Engram looks like he’s a thing now, and Hunter Henry probably will be as soon as Gates retires. Wilson and Wentz are a really good if not great QB tandem. Not sure why he’s carrying so many backup QBs, but I guess they’ll be decent trade bait. I think my three-deep wideout lineup is better than his (Hilton and Cooper don’t score touchdowns), my RBs are better _right now_, and my TEs aren’t development-dependent. But his QBs are younger and better, and I’d rather have his RBs **next** season than anyone’s (though Retro’s #1-#3 are just as good if not better, but Cook may never be the same and his depth players are iffy). ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/435 "2017-10-18T17:16:10Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I’ll give you my 2018 first-rounder for Winston. Not sure what you’re looking for in terms of current players but I’m not too interested in trading away other starters since I’m in win-now mode. Having said that, I would probably swap Matt Ryan for him straight up. How about a 1st and a 3rd for Winston? ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2017, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/436 "2017-10-19T08:38:11Z")
I can’t speak for dale, but I think Baldwin might be getting a lot of love for his past performances and not what he’s actually doing. Granted, I’m betting a young asset and a startable flex in the hopes he returns to what he was last year. But look at what he has done so far. He had one (maybe anomalous) big game that comes close to matching his total production in his four other games combined. Say you’re of the opinion he’s on the wrong side of his peak and sliding downwards (reasonable considering his age). He’s 29 and in the middle of his worst season in 3 years. His projected season right now, counting his one outlier game out of five, is 86/908/3. Matthews’ career average is 75/907/6. Even still, Matthews is 4 years younger and can conceivably reach another level. It makes sense to sell now before Baldwin bottoms out in this scenario. I’m just hoping that buying Baldwin now isn’t buying his decline. And if Baldwin turns it around, it would be really nice to take advantage of the Wilson-to-Baldwin hookup. Maybe it’s a big mistake buying into Seattle’s offense, I don’t know. Ellington isn’t worthless, but Spiller is. Nothing has changed with Ellington’s situation. He was strictly the third down back before, he still is. Last week just went away from him because Arians clearly featured Peterson to justify the trade, and the game situation went away from a pass-catching back. He’s still much closer to his season average the rest of the way than last week. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/437 "2017-10-20T01:06:06Z")
Well you’ve got a good talking game down. Amari Cooper just faked being bad for a few games so Jules could get him cheaply, now he’s back to being a top dynasty asset. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/438 "2017-10-20T03:25:46Z")
Jesus. I’m paying against Cooper in 3 of 4 SDMB leagues this week. Sent from my LG-H872 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Jules\_Andre](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jules_andre/32/9334_2.png) [@Jules\_Andre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jules_Andre)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/439 "2017-10-20T04:00:49Z")
And he was sitting on my bench until I started him on a whim because Stefon Diggs is questionable. I might have self-immolated if I had left him on my bench. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/440 "2017-10-22T07:27:53Z")
This will be the first time this season I’m projected as the loser. Losing Rodgers is a double whammy - it also significantly decreases the value of Jordy Nelson, probably my best player. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357/441 "2017-10-22T17:16:56Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > This will be the first time this season I’m projected as the loser. I guess that’s good news for me, but I assumed the Packers would go back to Ty Montgomery and I left Aaron Jones on my bench. :mad: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-fantasy-football-dynasty-league-year-nine/793357.md?page=23)