# SDMB FF Dynasty League: Year Five **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 27, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672 "2013-07-27T15:34:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2013, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/321 "2013-08-31T22:16:55Z")
Last pick is a boring one. Matt Prater, K, DEN ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2013, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/322 "2013-08-31T23:09:10Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Last pick is a boring one. > > Matt Prater, K, DEN Sigh. You’re welcome. Had to drop Prater in order to get a 3rd Round pick (with the plan to put Crabtree on IR immediately after the draft to free up the spot for a waiver Kicker). Was hoping Prater would slip through. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2013, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/323 "2013-08-31T23:43:50Z")
Josh Boyce, WR, NE > [@RetroVertigo](#): > > 4.4) Latavius Murray > Like I said he is on the IR so this is for 2014. He is a big, lighting quick, can catch the ball, and has great lateral movement (My sis-in-law goes to UCF, and I attended a game last year so I paid attention to them all season). I’ve watched every UCF game that’s been on TV for several years now, and this isn’t the way I’d describe him at all. He is big, has great straight-line speed, and is pretty patient in setting up his blockers (this is has been a characteristic of UCF backs under O’Leary, all the way back to Kevin F. Smith). He’s an upright size-speed runner in the Dickerson/McFadden mold, and if he gets a head of steam up he’ll run past LBs and through DBs. Good hands, good blocking, and I’d bet he’ll be solid on special teams. I wouldn’t call him quick, though, and lateral movement is not a strength. If the DL penetrates he’s not going to jump-cut/90 degree turn/spin/juke/whatever. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2013, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/324 "2013-09-01T00:52:01Z")
I guess we disagree on his skill set. [QUOTE=furt] I wouldn’t call him quick, though, and lateral movement is not a strength. If the DL penetrates he’s not going to jump-cut/90 degree turn/spin/juke/whatever. [/QUOTE] He did run a sub 4.4 at his pro-day, so he is fast/quick depending on your definition of the terms. And by “lateral movement” I was referring to his ability to cutback on a run, not harnessing the ghost of Barry Sanders. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2013, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/325 "2013-09-01T04:50:46Z")
> [@RetroVertigo](#): > > I guess we disagree on his skill set. > > He did run a sub 4.4 at his pro-day, so he is fast/quick depending on your definition of the terms. And by “lateral movement” I was referring to his ability to cutback on a run, not harnessing the ghost of Barry Sanders. 🙂 4.4 40 = straightline speed. To me “quick” means basically acceleration; stop/start/change direction. Murray’s shuttle times were meh. I know what you mean by lateral movement; what I’m saying is that by NFL standards his is mediocre. Even on his highlight reels from his UCF games, you won’t see a lot of “he really faked that guy out.” You do see a lot of “he blew right past them” and “he ran through that arm tackle.” Doesn’t mean he can’t be effective: there are plenty of good RBs that were mostly one-cut power/speed guys; pretty much every RB that’s as tall as Murray fits that description. In fact, he’s got a pretty similar skillset to DMC, who he’s backing up. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2013, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/326 "2013-09-01T04:52:46Z")
4 RNATB picks and we’re done, looks like. Let’s get this squared away so I can start bragging about projected points. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/327 "2013-09-01T14:19:34Z")
Steven Haushka, K, Sea Luke Stocker, TE, Tam Mart Barkley, QB, Phi Kenjon Barber, RB, Car ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/328 "2013-09-01T17:33:59Z")
Any idea when the rosters will be updated? I’m sure I’m not the only one looking at possibly picking up a free agent after the last rounds of NFL cuts. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2013, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/329 "2013-09-01T17:36:41Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Steven Haushka, K, Sea > Luke Stocker, TE, Tam > Mart Barkley, QB, Phi > Kenjon Barber, RB, Car \*barner ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/330 "2013-09-01T18:10:14Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > \*barner Damn it. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2013, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/331 "2013-09-01T21:10:24Z")
Final Results: 1-1:…Ellis…Tavon Austin, WR, StL 1-2:…RNATB…Giovani Bernard, RB, Cin 1-3:…dale…Montee Ball, RB, Den 1-4:…Retro…Eddie Lacey, RB, GB 1-5:…Petey…Le’Veon Bell, RB, Pit 1-6:…Justin…Joseph Randle, RB, Dal 1-7:…VarlosZ…DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Hou 1-8:…Omni…Christine Michael, RB, Sea 1-9:…Stringer…Tyler Eiffert, TE, Cin 1-10:.Beef…Cordarelle Patterson, WR, Min 1-11:.furt…Marcus Lattimore, RB, SF 1-12:.Hamlet…Keenan Allen, WR, SD 2-1:…Beef…Kenbrell Tompkins, WR, NE 2-2:…RNATB…EJ Manuel, QB, Buf 2-3:…Stringer…Markus Wheaton, WR, Pit 2-4:…Retro…Knile Davis, RB, KC 2-5:…Petey…Jonathan Franklin, RB, GB 2-6:…Justin…Kenny Stills, WR, NO 2-7:…Omni…Terrelle Pryor, QB, Oak 2-8:…VarlosZ…Zac Stacy, RB, StL 2-9:…Stringer…Zach Sudfeld, TE, NE 2-10:.Ellis…Travis Kelce, TE, KC 2-11:.furt…Robert Woods, WR, Buf 2-12:.Hamlet…Mike Gillislee, RB, Mia 3-1:…Ellis…Geno Smith, QB, NYJ 3-2:…RNATB…Stepfan Taylor, RB, Ari 3-3:…dale…Mike Tolbert, RB, Car 3-4:…Retro…Justin Hunter, WR, Ten 3-5:…Petey…Quinton Patton, WR, SF 3-6:…Justin…Andre Ellington, RB, Ari 3-7:…VarlosZ…Zach Ertz, TE, Phi 3-8:…Omni…Aaron Dobson, WR, NE 3-9:…Beef…Denard Robinson, WR, Jac 3-10:.furt…Chris Polk, RB, Phi 3-11:.Hamlet…Julius Thomas, TE, Den 4-1:…Ellis…Stedman Bailey, WR, StL 4-2:…RNATB…Isaac Redman, RB, Pit 4-3:…Retro…Latavius Murray, RB, Oak 4-4:…Justin…Mike Glennon, QB, TB 4-5:…Omni…Matt Prater, K, Den 4-6:…furt…Josh Boyce, WR, NE 5-1:…RNATB…Steven Haushka, K, Sea 6-1:…RNATB…Luke Stocker, TE, TB 7-1:…RNATB…Matt Barkley, QB, Phi 8-1:…RNATB…Kenjon Barner, RB, Car **Ellis Dee** 1.1 (1): Tavon Austin, WR, StL 2.10 (22): Travis Kelce, TE, KC 3.1 (25): Geno Smith, QB, NYJ 4.1 (36): Stedman Bailey, WR, StL **Really Not All That Bright** 1.2 (2): Giovani Bernard, RB, Cin 2.2 (14): EJ Manuel, QB, Buf 3.2 (26): Stepfan Taylor, RB, Ari 4.2 (37): Isaac Redman, RB, Pit 5.1 (42): Steven Haushka, K, Sea 6.1 (43): Luke Stocker, TE, TB 7.1 (44): Matt Barkley, QB, Phi 8.1 (45): Kenjon Barner, RB, Car **dalej42** 1.3 (3): Montee Ball, RB, Den 3.3 (27): Mike Tolbert, RB, Car **RetroVertigo** 1.4 (4): Eddie Lacey, RB, GB 2.4 (16): Knile Davis, RB, KC 3.4 (28): Justin Hunter, WR, Ten 4.3 (38): Latavius Murray, RB, Oak **Petey** 1.5 (5): Le’Veon Bell, RB, Pit 2.5 (17): Jonathan Franklin, RB, GB 3.5 (29): Quinton Patton, WR, SF **Justin Bailey** 1.6 (6): Joseph Randle, RB, Dal 2.6 (18): Kenny Stills, WR, NO 3.6 (30): Andre Ellington, RB, Ari 4.4 (39): Mike Glennon, QB, TB **VarlosZ** 1.7 (7): DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Hou 2.8 (20): Zac Stacy, RB, StL 3.7 (31): Zach Ertz, TE, Phi **Omniscient** 1.8 (8): Christine Michael, RB, Sea 2.7 (19): Terrelle Pryor, QB, Oak 3.8 (32): Aaron Dobson, WR, NE 4.5 (40): Matt Prater, K, Den **Stringer** 1.9 (9): Tyler Eiffert, TE, Cin 2.3 (15): Markus Wheaton, WR, Pit 2.9 (21): Zach Sudfeld, TE, NE **SenorBeef** 1.10 (10): Cordarelle Patterson, WR, Min 2.1 (13): Kenbrell Tompkins, WR, NE 3.9 (33): Denard Robinson, WR, Jac **furt** 1.11 (11): Marcus Lattimore, RB, SF 2.11 (23): Robert Woods, WR, Buf 3.10 (34): Chris Polk, RB, Phi 4.6 (41): Josh Boyce, WR, NE **Hamlet** 1.12 (12): Keenan Allen, WR, SD 2.12 (24): Mike Gillislee, RB, Mia 3.11 (35): Julius Thomas, TE, Den Trade List Ellis gives 13-2.1 & 14-3 for Beef’s 13-2.10 & 14-1 dalej42 gives 13-2.3 for Stringer’s Jay Cutler Omni gives 13-2.8 & 14-2 for Varlos’ 13-2.7 & 14-2 (Option) ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2013, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/332 "2013-09-01T23:29:53Z")
> [@furt](#): > > 4.4 40 = straightline speed. To me “quick” means basically acceleration; stop/start/change direction. Murray’s shuttle times were meh. > > I know what you mean by lateral movement; what I’m saying is that by NFL standards his is mediocre. Even on his highlight reels from his UCF games, you won’t see a lot of “he really faked that guy out.” You do see a lot of “he blew right past them” and “he ran through that arm tackle.” > > Doesn’t mean he can’t be effective: there are plenty of good RBs that were mostly one-cut power/speed guys; pretty much every RB that’s as tall as Murray fits that description. In fact, he’s got a pretty similar skillset to DMC, who he’s backing up. Sounds like Matt Forte. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/333 "2013-09-02T02:30:52Z")
He’s much taller than Forte, and not as good a receiver. Think Stephen Davis with less bulk and more quicks. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/334 "2013-09-02T02:41:09Z")
Forte is 6’2" 220, exact same size as Murray’s combine listing. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/335 "2013-09-02T03:03:26Z")
Wow. Forte doesn’t appear that big on tv. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/336 "2013-09-02T03:05:25Z")
So after the draft results are entered, we’ll have a 2 day FA/waiver period for unowned players, right? We should get that entered now so the period is over by the first game. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/337 "2013-09-02T03:10:37Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Forte is 6’2" 220, exact same size as Murray’s combine listing. > [@RetroVertigo](#): > > Wow. Forte doesn’t appear that big on tv. I had no idea either. I thought he was about 5’8". ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/338 "2013-09-02T03:24:48Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > So after the draft results are entered, we’ll have a 2 day FA/waiver period for unowned players, right? We should get that entered now so the period is over by the first game. When can we put in waiver claims? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/339 "2013-09-02T04:11:44Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > **Really Not All That Bright** > 1.2 (2): Giovani Bernard, RB, Cin > 2.2 (14): EJ Manuel, QB, Buf > 3.2 (26): Stepfan Taylor, RB, Ari > 4.2 (37): Isaac Redman, RB, Pit > 5.1 (42): Steven Haushka, K, Sea > 6.1 (43): Luke Stocker, TE, TB > 7.1 (44): Matt Barkley, QB, Phi > 8.1 (45): Kenjon Barner, RB, Car I guess I have enough draft choices to make a recap worthwhile, so here goes. I needed some running backs and a young quarterback. There weren’t really any QBs worth drafting except Manuel, and I got him. I’m not sure what I have with him but apparently he won the Bills’ job cleanly from Kevin Kolb and looked like an NFL QB in camp. Certainly he has the physical tools. Barkley is nothing more than a flier, since there are two guys ahead of him for playing time. Bernard is obviously the best fantasy player available in this draft and I was thrilled when Ellis passed on him for Tayvon Austin. He runs, catches, and appears to be the Bengals’ goal line back already. He’s tied to a plus offense but not one that throws the ball all the time. He won’t see the ball 300 times as a rookie, so he won’t be run into the ground. Basically, he’s someone I can rebuild my team around. Taylor and Barner, conversely, may never amount to anything. Taylor has an easier road to a starting spot but he’s apparently a plodder. Barner, conversely, is a home run hitter, but he’s barely bigger than Darren Sproles and might never be more than a third down back. Redman is just there to fill the flex spot during the first half of the season, and maybe to trade to LeVion Bell’s owner for a prospect when he comes back. Stocker is an intriguing prospect. He’s been the Buccaneers’ #2 TE for his first two years, and has mostly been a blocker. TEs rarely catch on early at this level, so minimal production over his first two seasons isn’t a concern. What’s important is that he’s now starting in an offense that needs someone to exploit the middle of the field. The Bucs don’t have a good slot receiver so a TE is a good bet. I needed a kicker with Connor Barth on IR, and Hauschka plays for a good-but-not-great offense. The worry is the conditions at Qwest Field, or whatever it’s called now, but I can always swap him out. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2013, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/340 "2013-09-02T11:35:23Z")
> [@](#): > > **Justin Bailey** > 1.6 (6): Joseph Randle, RB, Dal > 2.6 (18): Kenny Stills, WR, NO > 3.6 (30): Andre Ellington, RB, Ari > 4.4 (39): Mike Glennon, QB, TB **Afterthoughts:** I needed to refill my running back corps and I’m not sure I was able to as well and I’d hoped. With Retro and Petey picking ahead of me, and both having the same need, I got to lick the plate after they picked all the good guys off. But all my guys had good preseasons, and nearly everyone is in the backup role on their respective teams (I think Glennon is officially #3, but it’s not for long). Brees likes to spread the ball around, so Stills may even see some decent numbers this year. Andre Ellington was a flier, but you never know what the Cardinals RB position will look like from week-to-week. Randle has shown some promise, but I was too late to get Eddie Lacy and I thought the first round was too early to take Knile Davis, a guy I really wanted. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672.md?page=18)