# SDMB FF Dynasty League: Year Five

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 27, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672 "2013-07-27T15:34:25Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/401 "2013-09-25T13:01:49Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> “Moved Brian Hoyer to QB - Benched Aaron Rodgers”
> 
> FML

Had to happen eventually, though that might be the biggest drop off from starter to backup we’ve ever had.

I must admit: I’m kinda looking forward to watching your team crash & burn in the playoffs. Don’t get me wrong: it would be even better if you were to somehow miss the playoffs entirely, then win the consolation bracket and send the 5th overall pick next year to **Ellis**. But, barring a couple big injuries, I must admit that’s looking unlikely. Therefore, I will content myself with an ignominious collapse in Week 15, followed by a bittersweet win the in the 3rd-Place game (with a total that easily bests both teams in the Championship matchup).

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/402 "2013-09-25T16:49:48Z")

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That’s exactly what happened last year, I put up the most points in the championship round. I was hit by 3 (4?) injuries to my starters late in the season, had one off game, and, well, that’s how fantasy playoffs work.

I think this week is actually going to be my toughest week, and it’ll say a lot if my team can survive the Green Bay bye. If I win this week, I think I’ve got at least a 1/3rd chance at an undefeated season, probably more.

And then I’d make the plunge to full blown supervillain.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/403 "2013-09-25T18:42:39Z")

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FWIW, who knows how injuries will shake out, but as of now I have decent enough matchups in the playoff rounds and my projected score for Week 15 with my default starters is 137.09 and week 16 is 139.70. It’s a long season, who knows what may happen (in particular a Rodgers injury would be devastating), but’s looking good at this point.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/404 "2013-09-25T19:23:55Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> If I win this week, I think I’ve got at least a 1/3rd chance at an undefeated season, probably more.

I would happily give you 2:1 odds on that (real money).

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/405 "2013-09-25T19:28:34Z")

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Hmm, are we talking just the regular season or the playoffs too? Do you have any feelings about whether I hit a 2000 point season?

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/406 "2013-09-25T20:10:19Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Hmm, are we talking just the regular season or the playoffs too? Do you have any feelings about whether I hit a 2000 point season?

It’s doable, but I don’t think that’s possible. As you said, one or two big injuries and your team starts struggling.

Hmm, side bets might make this league even more interesting.

ETA: Your projections for this week are RIDICULOUSLY generous. Gronk still might not even play. Putting up 15 will be a stretch.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/407 "2013-09-25T21:39:13Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Hmm, are we talking just the regular season or the playoffs too?

Hmmmm. I had in mind 16-0, but I’d offer 2:1 on 14-0. 5:2 on 16-0.

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> Do you have any feelings about whether I hit a 2000 point season?

Well, no one has come within 75 points of it seasons, so I’m betting you don’t. Remember, [average points scored dips](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15787913&postcount=626) in the middle of the season.

Not sure what the odds would be. At 3:2 I’d offer the bet; at 5:1 I’d balk. somewhere in there.  
I’d also be amendable to wagering 2014 draft picks, but I imagine there’d be an objection or two within the league.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/408 "2013-09-25T21:48:07Z")

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Fire sale on my veterans! Who wants a tasty Reggie Bush? How about a nice Anquan Boldin? Matt Schaub? Owen Daniels? Even DeSean Jackson is now available, though you’ll pay a king’s ransom.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2013, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/409 "2013-09-25T23:21:00Z")

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The absolute worst player movement was me a few years ago. I benched QB Drew Brees, started QB JaMarcus Russell during a Saints bye week. Russell got me negative points that week.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/410 "2013-09-26T00:19:05Z")

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Trade announcement! I get The Law Firm, **dalej42** gets Doug Baldwin.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/411 "2013-09-26T03:15:08Z")

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Betting draft picks would definitely raise the stakes and increase league engagement, and I like the idea for that reason, but I’m not sure it’s fair to all the uninvolved teams for parity reasons. Hmm.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/412 "2013-09-26T03:45:12Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Betting draft picks would definitely raise the stakes and increase league engagement, and I like the idea for that reason, but I’m not sure it’s fair to all the uninvolved teams for parity reasons. Hmm.

I’ve floated the idea half-jokingly at least once before and gotten a “yeah, no” from one or two people on the concept itself.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/413 "2013-09-26T04:13:15Z")

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I’ve got 441 messages in my Private Messages folder, almost all of them from this league, and almost all of them trade discussions (I’ve already deleted the deadline reminders and other non-essentials). I like to keep a record of the road not traveled, but pretty soon I’m gonna have to start making some decisions…

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/414 "2013-09-26T05:02:27Z")

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Spreadsheet time!

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/415 "2013-09-26T05:34:50Z")

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Varlos, our trade discussions have now hit 75,000 words. Have we ever actually made a trade?

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/416 "2013-09-26T05:45:49Z")

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Nope. Calvin Johnson for LeSean McCoy was pretty close, but even then it was just _theoretically pretty close. For all the time and words expended, I’m not sure either of us ever made an official, concrete offer (as opposed to the "I think it would be something like X and Y_ for _A and B_, but don’t hold me to that, I’ll take a long look at it this weekend" kind of thing).

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/417 "2013-09-26T05:47:14Z")

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Ah well, it’s not wasted time. I enjoy the machinations surrounding FF, and you’re my most active partner in that. By quite a lot.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/418 "2013-09-26T12:54:01Z")

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Conversely, I am fairly certain I lead this league in actual trades by a mile. Not that most of them have worked out.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/419 "2013-09-26T13:23:35Z")

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Speaking of which, another trade: I get Shane Vereen and Mark Ingram. **Varlos** gets Reggie Boooosh.

Out of curiosity, I went back to see which players I originally drafted are still on my roster, and to see if I could remember where they went.

> [@](#):
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> 9 Inch Neils (RNATB)
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> 1. (2) Michael Turner  
> (Atl - RB) - cut/retired
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> 2. (23) Kevin Smith  
> (Det - RB) - injured to death
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> 3. (35) Brandon Marshall  
> (Chi - WR) - traded for Jason Witten who I traded for Reggie Bush
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> 4. (38) Vincent Jackson  
> (TB - WR) - traded for Ben Tate and Chris Ponder
> 
> 5. (59) DeSean Jackson  
> (Phi - WR) - still here. I can’t quit you.
> 
> 6. (62) Larry Johnson  
> (Mia - RB) - cut/grandma
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> 7. (83) Matt Schaub  
> (Hou - QB) - still here. The balding principal of my team lo these many years.
> 
> 8. (86) Chris Cooley  
> (Was - TE) - traded for… something useless, probably
> 
> 9. (107) Cedric Benson  
> (GB - RB) - cut/drunk
> 
> 10. (110) Carson Palmer  
> (Ari - QB) - cut/retired, then unretired
> 
> 11. (131) Philadelphia  
> (Phi - DEF) - cut, picked up, cut, picked up, cut
> 
> 12. (134) Steve Smith  
> (TB - WR) - wrong Steve Smith. Why does it say he’s on Tampa’s roster?
> 
> 13. (155) Carnell Williams  
> (StL - RB) - cut/injured to death
> 
> 14. (158) Washington  
> (Was - DEF) - bleh
> 
> 15. (179) Mason Crosby  
> (GB - K) - was on roster until I dumped him for Connor Barth
> 
> 16. (182) Nate Burleson  
> (Det - WR) - cut, I think?
> 
> 17. (203) Tampa Bay  
> (TB - DEF) - back on my roster now. Yay!
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> 18. (206) Matt Prater  
> (Den - K) - should have kept him over Barth. Tebowed.
> 
> 19. (227) Robert Meachem  
> (NO - WR) - finally cut this year after what feels like a decade of waiting for breakout
> 
> 20. (230) Jermichael Finley  
> (GB - TE) - cut. Oops.
> 
> 21. (251) DeDe Dorsey  
> (Det - RB) - who?
> 
> 22. (254) Fred Taylor  
> (Jax - RB) - cut/pensioner
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> 23. (275) Maurice Morris  
> (Det - RB) - cut/boring
> 
> 24. (278) Mewelde Moore  
> (Ind - RB) - cut/Love Boat
> 
> 25. (299) Edgerrin James  
> (Sea - RB) - comeback didn’t pan out

I’d completely forgotten, but I drafted Michael Turner ahead of Adrian Peterson with the #2 overall pick. Whoops.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2013, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-five/664672/420 "2013-09-26T13:32:50Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> 1. (182) Nate Burleson  
> (Det - WR) - cut, I think?

You traded him to me for Jason Witten. And then you traded Witten back to me for Reggie Bush.

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