# SDMB FF Dynasty League: Year Four **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 15, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336 "2012-07-15T20:03:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Petey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f1d935/32.png) [@Petey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Petey)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2012, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/241 "2012-08-26T23:26:40Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Maybe its early but I declare myself the winner of the draft. Sure, when you get 2 picks every round. 😛 Pete ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/242 "2012-08-27T00:37:10Z")
> [@](#): > > 1. I executed the two trades we’ve had so far: **dalej42** / **Justin\_Bailey** (Ryan Williams for Andy Dalton) and **dale** /\*\*Beef \*\*(#1 overall pick for Jimmy Graham). > > I \*believe \*I’ve got the latter trade squared away correctly. I just transferred ownership of the 1st overall pick to Exploding Pancakes, then transferred ownership of **Beef** ’s draft pick that was being used to keep Jimmy Graham (it happens to be a 9th Rounder) to Warner’s Brothers. In the past we may have done this differently, with transferring a later pick from the owner giving a player to the owner giving a pick so as to make the numbers work, but if so I’m now thinking that there was a mistake somewhere and that this is right way to do it. Am I imagining things about previous off-season draft-pick trades? Sorry for the late response but walk me through this. I cut 4 players. I essentially trade Jimmy Graham for Trent Richardson. But he gets 1 of my cut slots so I only get 3 draft picks in my natural slot. Right? But if we were to just trade player for player is retain my pick. So I’m not sure in should lose a pick. But I may be missing something. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/243 "2012-08-27T00:43:38Z")
Maybe dumb question but will dale end up with 26 on his roster and me with 24? Don’t have time to count. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/244 "2012-08-27T00:44:10Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Sorry for the late response but walk me through this. I cut 4 players. I essentially trade Jimmy Graham for Trent Richardson. But he gets 1 of my cut slots so I only get 3 draft picks in my natural slot. Right? But if we were to just trade player for player is retain my pick. So I’m not sure in should lose a pick. But I may be missing something. I wouldn’t sweat it. I assume Varlos is making changes to the draft board manually, and since we’ve got the correct number of picks listed earlier in the thread, we’ll know that you get a 4th round pick and Varlos will manually adjust the draft board on Yahoo so everything’s correct. Also, everybody stop picking RBs. I was hoping for Hillman or Turbin to drop to my spot in round 2, but that didn’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/245 "2012-08-27T02:10:17Z")
I still don’t get why I cut 6 players yet only have 4 picks. Feels like I missed something important here. ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/246 "2012-08-27T02:13:50Z")
You probably had some IR players? Murray and Clark? ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/247 "2012-08-27T03:37:46Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Sorry for the late response but walk me through this. I cut 4 players. I essentially trade Jimmy Graham for Trent Richardson. But he gets 1 of my cut slots so I only get 3 draft picks in my natural slot. Right? But if we were to just trade player for player is retain my pick. So I’m not sure in should lose a pick. But I may be missing something. Technically you are missing something, but in fact, taking a second hard pass at this, it’s something that I missed. It’s not that you had four picks to make and then somehow the trade happened and you only had three: you only had three picks to begin with. I miscounted the number of players on [your season-ending roster](http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2011/44622/3) when I ran the numbers for section 5) in [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=15400519&postcount=83); I simply miscounted to 25, but it was actually 26 because one of your guys was on IR (as \*\*Stringer \*_has correctly surmised, I see on edit_). 26 players minus 4 cuts equals 22 keepers, leaving three draft picks (all teams must exit the draft with exactly 25). So your listed number of picks in the linked post above was in error, but because I later built the draft on the Yahoo site simply by adding all the players you didn’t cut, it was right from the start. **Omni** ’s answer is the same, of course, but fortunately that’s not a mistake on my part, just a note that he missed. - –\> You can compare the time-stamps for Stringer’s post and this one, and then make an inference about how long I just spent starting this post and writing down names and adding to 25 (or 24, or 26) and trying to express my concurrent bewilderment at this seeming paradox and wondering why your trade with \*\*RNATB \*\*(executed in precisely the same way) hadn’t caused a similar paradox and then reasoning that, hey, you got all the players you said you wanted to keep and none of the ones you didn’t so how can there be a mistake? … before I finally got the bright idea to go back and just re-count the players on your 2011 roster. I’m a dope. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/248 "2012-08-27T03:46:22Z")
Aha. Who was my player on IR last year? Can’t see 2011 on my tab for some reason. Wish I’d have noticed. I’d have cut an extra player - I wanted 4 picks. ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/249 "2012-08-27T03:47:12Z")
Knox probably. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/250 "2012-08-27T04:16:34Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Aha. Who was my player on IR last year? Can’t see 2011 on my tab for some reason. AFAICT, Yahoo doesn’t give us any hint as to which player or players were on your team’s IR. > [@](#): > > Wish I’d have noticed. I’d have cut an extra player - I wanted 4 picks. Eh, it was my mistake, and I see 2 or 3 keepers of yours about whom no one is gonna be mad because they missed a chance to spend a 2nd Rounder on the guy. Run the name by me first (I’m going to bed now), but if you want to take a late cut and get your 4.12 pick back, I think that would be ok so long I agree the name isn’t going to cause anyone to feel they missed a chance at drafting and there isn’t substantial objection to the idea. We’ll see where we stand tomorrow after I’ve gotten some sleep. Oh, and I sent a PM to \*\*Ellis \*\*just now, in case he didn’t already get one. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/251 "2012-08-27T04:32:24Z")
Wow, I was thinking he’d slide down to the 5th, but he’s currently ranked #3 overall in yahoo’s projections so I guess I have to pull the trigger on a starting (albeit crappy) TE: Martellus Bennett, TE, NYG I’m happy I resisted the urge to take Randle last round even though I think he’ll get lots of looks this season, but I’ve been hankering for some Bennett. ---
**Author:** ![Petey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f1d935/32.png) [@Petey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Petey)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/252 "2012-08-27T10:40:29Z")
I think I’m up. Looking at my sorry state of TEs I pick: Jacob Tamme, TE, Den ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/253 "2012-08-27T13:16:49Z")
Recap: > [@](#): > > 1.1 – Exploding Pancakes – Trent Richardson, RB, Cleveland [sup]1[/sup] > 1.2 – Ides of Martz – Andrew Luck, QB, Indianapolis > 1.3 – CuteWiddleBunny – Robert Griffin III, QB, Washington > 1.4 – New York Fanboys – David Wilson, RB, NY Giants > 1.5 – Isotopes – Doug Martin, RB, Tampa Bay > 1.6 – Fightin’ Quakers – Russell Wilson, QB, Seattle > 1.7 – Nine Inch Neils (RNATB) - Justin Blackmon, WR, Jax (traded to **VarlosZ** ) [sup]2[/sup] > 1.8 – Varlos’ Zzzzzzz - Michael Floyd, WR, Arizona > 1.9 – RetroVertigo - Brian Quick WR, St. Louis > 1.10 – The Gusterrhoids - Alshon Jeffery, WR, Chicago > 1.11 – We Do HGH - Kendall Wright, WR, Tennessee > 1.12 – Exploding Pancakes - Isaiah Pead, RB, St. Louis > > 2.1 – Warner’s Brothers - Lamar Miller, RB Miami > 2.2 – Ides of Martz - Ronnie Hillman, RB, Denver > 2.3 – CuteWiddleBunny - Coby Fleener, TE, Indianapolis > 2.4 – New York Fanboys - LaMichael James, RB, San Francisco > 2.5 – Isotopes - Ryan Tannehill, QB, Miami > 2.6 – Fightin’ Quakers - Ryan Broyles, WR, Detroit > 2.7 – Exploding Pancakes - Stephen Hill, WR, NY Jets [sup]3[/sup] > 2.8 – Varlos’ Zzzzzzz - Robert Turbin, RB, Seattle > 2.9 – RetroVertigo - Bernard Pierce, RB, Baltimore > 2.10 – The Gusterrhoids - Rueben Randle, WR, NYG > 2.11 – We Do HGH - Juron Criner, WR, Oakland > 2.12 – Exploding Pancakes - Josh Gordon. WR. Cleveland > > 3.1 – Warner’s Brothers - Chris Rainey, RB, Pittsburgh > 3.2 – Ides of Martz - Danny Almendola, WR, St. Louis > 3.3 – CuteWiddleBunny - Bilal Powell, RB, NYJ > 3.4 – New York Fanboys - Martellus Bennett, TE, NYG > 3.5 – Isotopes - Jacob Tamme, TE, Denver > 3.6 – Fightin’ Quakers - > 3.7 – Nine Inch Neils - > 3.8 – Varlos’ Zzzzzzz - > 3.9 – RetroVertigo - Keeper > 3.10 – The Gusterrhoids - > 3.11 – We Do HGH - > 3.12 – Exploding Pancakes - > > Trades > > - > - Warner’s Brothers ( **dalej42** ) trades Andy Dalton, QB, Cincinnati to The Gusterrhoids ( **Justin\_Bailey** ) for Ryan Williams, RB, Arizona > [sup]1[/sup] - Exploding Pancakes ( **SenorBeef** ) trades Jimmy Graham, TE, Saints to Warner’s Brothers ( **dalej42** ) for a 1st round pick (1.1 - Trent Richardson, RB, Cleveland) > [sup]2[/sup] - Nine Inch Neils ( **RNATB** ) trades the rights to Justin Blackmon, WR, Jacksonville (1.7) to Varlos’ Zzzzzzz ( **VarlosZ** ) for Mike Williams, WR, Tampa Bay > [sup]3[/sup] - Exploding Pancakes ( **SenorBeef** ) trades LeGarrett Blount, RB, Tampa Bay to Nine Inch Neils ( **RNATB** ) for a 2nd round pick (2.7 - Stephen Hill, WR, NY Jets) Has anyone heard from **furt**? ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/254 "2012-08-27T13:46:25Z")
**Remaining Picks** 3.6 – Fightin’ Quakers 3.7 – Exploding Pancakes 3.8 – Varlos’ Zzzzzzz 3.9 – The Gusterrhoids 3.10 – We Do HGH 3.11 – Exploding Pancakes 4.1 – Warner’s Brothers 4.2 – Ides of Martz 4.3 – New York Fanboys 4.4 – Isotopes 4.5 – Fightin’ Quakers 4.6 – Nine Inch Neils 4.7 – Varlos’ Zzzzzzz 4.8 – The Gusterrhoids 4.9 – We Do HGH (4.10 – Exploding Pancakes) - if he cuts another player 5.1 – Warner’s Brothers 5.2 – New York Fanboys 5.3 – Isotopes 5.4 – Fightin’ Quakers 5.5 – Nine Inch Neils 5.6 – Varlos’ Zzzzzzz 5.7 – The Gusterrhoids 6.1 – New York Fanboys 6.2 – Isotopes 7.1 – New York Fanboys ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/255 "2012-08-27T15:29:04Z")
It’s my own fault, had I remembered about the IR slot I would have cut more players. But like I said Varlosz shouldn’t be expected to hold my hand throughout the process. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/256 "2012-08-27T15:38:11Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > **Remaining Picks** > > 3.7 – Exploding Pancakes That’s my pick, not Beef’s. I think someone copied the second round order when they were doing a recap of the third round, because I traded my second round pick to him. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/257 "2012-08-27T15:55:27Z")
> [@RetroVertigo](#): > > It’s my own fault, had I remembered about the IR slot I would have cut more players. But like I said Varlosz shouldn’t be expected to hold my hand throughout the process. You and me both. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/258 "2012-08-27T15:58:02Z")
Sorry, you’re right. Corrected draft board… **Draft** 1.1 – Exploding Pancakes – Trent Richardson, RB, Cleveland [sup]1[/sup] 1.2 – Ides of Martz – Andrew Luck, QB, Indianapolis 1.3 – CuteWiddleBunny – Robert Griffin III, QB, Washington 1.4 – New York Fanboys – David Wilson, RB, NY Giants 1.5 – Isotopes – Doug Martin, RB, Tampa Bay 1.6 – Fightin’ Quakers – Russell Wilson, QB, Seattle 1.7 – Nine Inch Neils (RNATB) - Justin Blackmon, WR, Jax (traded to **VarlosZ** ) [sup]2[/sup] 1.8 – Varlos’ Zzzzzzz - Michael Floyd, WR, Arizona 1.9 – RetroVertigo - Brian Quick WR, St. Louis 1.10 – The Gusterrhoids - Alshon Jeffery, WR, Chicago 1.11 – We Do HGH - Kendall Wright, WR, Tennessee 1.12 – Exploding Pancakes - Isaiah Pead, RB, St. Louis 2.1 – Warner’s Brothers - Lamar Miller, RB Miami 2.2 – Ides of Martz - Ronnie Hillman, RB, Denver 2.3 – CuteWiddleBunny - Coby Fleener, TE, Indianapolis 2.4 – New York Fanboys - LaMichael James, RB, San Francisco 2.5 – Isotopes - Ryan Tannehill, QB, Miami 2.6 – Fightin’ Quakers - Ryan Broyles, WR, Detroit 2.7 – Exploding Pancakes - Stephen Hill, WR, NY Jets [sup]3[/sup] 2.8 – Varlos’ Zzzzzzz - Robert Turbin, RB, Seattle 2.9 – RetroVertigo - Bernard Pierce, RB, Baltimore 2.10 – The Gusterrhoids - Rueben Randle, WR, NYG 2.11 – We Do HGH - Juron Criner, WR Oakland 2.12 – Exploding Pancakes - Josh Gordon. WR. Cleveland 3.1 – Warner’s Brothers - Chris Rainey, RB Pittsburgh 3.2 – Ides of Martz - Danny Almendola, WR, St. Louis 3.3 – CuteWiddleBunny - Bilal Powell, RB, NYJ 3.4 – New York Fanboys - Martellus Bennett, TE, NYG 3.5 – Isotopes - Jacob Tamme, TE, Denver 3.6 – Fightin’ Quakers 3.7 – Nine Inch Neils 3.8 – Varlos’ Zzzzzzz 3.9 – The Gusterrhoids 3.10 – We Do HGH 3.11 – Exploding Pancakes 4.1 – Warner’s Brothers 4.2 – Ides of Martz 4.3 – New York Fanboys 4.4 – Isotopes 4.5 – Fightin’ Quakers 4.6 – Nine Inch Neils 4.7 – Varlos’ Zzzzzzz 4.8 – The Gusterrhoids 4.9 – We Do HGH (4.10 – Exploding Pancakes) - if he cuts another player 5.1 – Warner’s Brothers 5.2 – New York Fanboys 5.3 – Isotopes 5.4 – Fightin’ Quakers 5.5 – Nine Inch Neils 5.6 – Varlos’ Zzzzzzz 5.7 – The Gusterrhoids 6.1 – New York Fanboys 6.2 – Isotopes 7.1 – New York Fanboys **Trades** - - Warner’s Brothers ( **dalej42** ) trades Andy Dalton, QB, Cincinnati to The Gusterrhoids ( **Justin\_Bailey** ) for Ryan Williams, RB, Arizona [sup]1[/sup] - Exploding Pancakes ( **SenorBeef** ) trades Jimmy Graham, TE, Saints to Warner’s Brothers ( **dalej42** ) for a 1st round pick (1.1 - Trent Richardson, RB, Cleveland) [sup]2[/sup] - Nine Inch Neils ( **RNATB** ) trades the rights to Justin Blackmon, WR, Jacksonville (1.7) to Varlos’ Zzzzzzz ( **VarlosZ** ) for Mike Williams, WR, Tampa Bay [sup]3[/sup] - Exploding Pancakes ( **SenorBeef** ) trades LeGarrett Blount, RB, Tampa Bay to Nine Inch Neils ( **RNATB** ) for a 2nd round pick (2.7 - Stephen Hill, WR, NY Jets) ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/259 "2012-08-27T21:03:38Z")
That’s fine if I’m short a pick. Something to remember next time. ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/260 "2012-08-27T21:12:29Z")
Yeah the only reason I figured out the IR thing is because I thought I had far more picks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336.md?page=14)