# SDMB FF Dynasty League: Year Four **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 15, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336 "2012-07-15T20:03:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/21 "2012-08-05T20:11:08Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > The “for a TE” nonsense is going to screw a lot of people up in fantasy football. If he traded for a WR who was young, on a steady offense, and put up 1300 yards and 11 TDs, would you think that was so strange? Instead of Trent Richardson in dynasty? Fuck yeah I would think that was strange. You still don’t have the best team Beef. I outscored you by 100 on the season, and lost in the championship by less than 5 points. And one of my best RBs was on IR the entire season. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/22 "2012-08-05T20:17:37Z")
I’m a Browns homer and really wanted Richardson, but let’s not go crazy with him. 6 times a year he has to play 3 of the top defenses in the league. Do you think he’ll be posting monster stats against Cinci, Baltimore, and Pittsburgh? And with questionable offensive support around him. I love the guy, but he’s a rookie in a tough situation - he’s not even the consensus #1 rookie pick of this draft. And you did outscore me for the year. But my team is younger and just now hitting their peak. I passed you up during the playoffs last year and there’s no turning back. ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/23 "2012-08-05T20:19:33Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > And you did outscore me for the year. But my team is younger and just now hitting their peak. I passed you up during the playoffs last year and there’s no turning back. I outscored you in the playoffs but ok. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/24 "2012-08-05T20:21:37Z")
Not during the most important part! I think if people were to choose whether to have your roster or mine, most would pick mine. Factoring in Richardson. Plus, I had Finley sitting on my bench all year long too while the 2 other TEs were setting records. Swapping Graham for Richardson and playing Finley gives me more value on the active roster this year. Plus I’m going to acquire Calvin Johnson somehow. ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/25 "2012-08-05T20:28:04Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I think if people were to choose whether to have your roster or mine, most would pick mine. Factoring in Richardson. Probably true but my roster is deeper and I can absorb injuries much better. Your team will be clearly better than mine in a couple years but right now my team is just as good or better. > [@SenorBeef](#): > > Plus I’m going to acquire Calvin Johnson somehow. lol ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/26 "2012-08-05T20:30:10Z")
I don’t mean to downplay your team, it’s pretty awesome. And I think next year is going to be close - I’m looking forward to our matches. I do think, overall, in a dynasty contest, I have the best roster. And I’m quite serious about Calvin Johnson. VARLOS! ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/27 "2012-08-05T21:59:59Z")
You have a really good team too, I assume we will see each other in the finals again. #brohug ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/28 "2012-08-05T22:02:57Z")
Tell you what, if they surrender now I’ll let you have 1/3rd of the women. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/29 "2012-08-06T16:32:17Z")
> [@Stringer](#): > > You have a really good team too, I assume we will see each other in the finals again. #brohug > [@SenorBeef](#): > > Tell you what, if they surrender now I’ll let you have 1/3rd of the women. If you two are done celebrating your impending victory, I’ll just sit here and remind you that we haven’t even _drafted_ yet. And besides, I’m going to win it all. Forte/VJax/Andy Dalton will take me to the promised land! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/30 "2012-08-06T16:36:01Z")
Oh, right. Who’s winning the draft with 2 first round picks including the #1 overall? Glad you were here to put me in my place! ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/31 "2012-08-06T16:40:04Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Glad you were here to put me in my place! I can’t wait until Gronk fails to repeat his numbers from last year (he’ll be good, but there’s no way he even sniffs 17 TDs). In other words, the fantasy gods are going to smite you! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/32 "2012-08-06T16:47:31Z")
I agree that it’d be hard for Gronk to repeat - I mean, how often does a player repeat an all-time record breaking season? But I think he’ll still clearly be as valuable as any tight end has been in fantasy football, and produce like a top 8ish receiving threat, which is still immensely valuable from the TE position. Even 1100/12 would be one of the all time great TE seasons and I think that’s fairly likely. On the other hand, I’ll have Richardson starting over Starks/Blount which should be a pretty big upgrade, and Finley will be a dropoff from Graham but not as dramatic as it was last year. I’m concerned about Jordy Nelson coming back to Earth though - surprise hit receivers often do. OTOH, Manning to Demaryius Thomas will offset some of that. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/33 "2012-08-06T18:11:18Z")
FWIW, I looked at a bunch of average draft position charts and Graham gets drafted ahead of Richardson in most of them. Does that change for dynasty? Not really - rookie running backs hit the ground running and Graham is only going into his third year, it’s not like he’s got half his career over. The ADP from different sources can be pretty different at this time of year though. The most broad based one I’ve seen so far is ESPN, which has Graham as #20 and Richardson as #27. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/34 "2012-08-06T20:10:24Z")
For what it is worth, I’m back in the States and just starting to get back into the fantasy football thang. I really like this league (despite the repeated beating Lady Luck has put on me every damn year), so I’m starting to look it over a bit more. Some thoughts: I’d prefer an in-thread draft with a 12 hour time limit rather than an online draft. I love the hubris and can’t wait for karma to strike. I need to get my crap together. This league demands a bit more detailed knowledge of the lower level of depth charts in the NFL. I’m really happy I own Eric Decker. Not so enamored with the injury to Adrian Peterson though. I have the number 3 pick in the draft (I think). I also have Matthew Stafford and Phillip Rivers. If anyone is interested in trading up for RGIII or Luck, just let me know. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/35 "2012-08-06T21:26:06Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I have the number 3 pick in the draft (I think). I also have Matthew Stafford and Phillip Rivers. If anyone is interested in trading up for RGIII or Luck, just let me know. What are you looking for? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/36 "2012-08-06T21:52:33Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > What are you looking for? Depends how far I fall down. I’d swap picks for some sleeper/non starter that I like, or just give it for a player who would start on my team like I did last year. Anything you have in mind? ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/37 "2012-08-06T22:41:07Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I think this was a very even deal, I’m quite excited about my team for this season. I still have Cam Newton or Drew Brees available for trade in a fair deal. I’m looking for a stud RB or perhaps a WR for either. > [@SenorBeef](#): > > Alright my sons, there has been a trade. > > After a whole lot of tries, I have finally managed to trade my tight end squad down to 2. > > Exploding Pancakes trades Jimmy Graham, TE, Saints to Warner’s Brothers (dalej42) in exchange for the #1 overall pick of the 2012 draft. > > Can anyone guess who I’m going to use that pick on?! I’m a little disappointed that I didn’t get a chance to counter Beef’s offer, but I understand if you had your heart set on Graham. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/38 "2012-08-06T23:01:22Z")
He mentioned it in post 8 of the thread and then again that he was going to trade the pick, so you’ve had a while. Or maybe you floated an offer and meant to having achance ot increase it. As far as being punished for hubris, the fantasy gods must be storing it up. I had hubris last year when all I did was win 3 SDMB fantasy leagues, and also the year before that when I had the best overall season of fantasy football across all SDMB leagues that anyone will ever have. Big punishment coming! ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2012, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/39 "2012-08-06T23:12:18Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > He mentioned it in post 8 of the thread and then again that he was going to trade the pick, so you’ve had a while. **Or maybe you floated an offer and meant to having achance ot increase it.** > > As far as being punished for hubris, the fantasy gods must be storing it up. I had hubris last year when all I did was win 3 SDMB fantasy leagues, and also the year before that when I had the best overall season of fantasy football across all SDMB leagues that anyone will ever have. > > Big punishment coming! [Bolding mine] This. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2012, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/40 "2012-08-07T06:51:00Z")
Just looking at last year’s first round. What a crapfest that turned out to be compared to what it seems like this year could be. 1. Mark Ingram (NO - RB) Warner’s Bro… 2. A.J. Green (Cin - WR) RetroVertigo 3. Julio Jones (Atl - WR) Ides of Martz 4. Daniel Thomas (Mia - RB) Varlos’ Zzzzzzz 5. Cam Newton (Car - QB) Warner’s Bro… (From Hamlet) 6. Delone Carter (Ind - RB) 9 Inch Neils… 7. Roy Helu (Was - RB) Fightin’ Qua… 8. Jared Cook (Ten - TE) The Gusterrh… 9. Greg Little (Cle - WR) Isotopes 10. Jordy Nelson (GB - WR) Exploding Pa… 11. Plaxico Burress (NYJ - WR) New York Fan… 12. Kendall Hunter (SF - RB) We Do HGH Only Green, Newton, and Nelson are looking good although Julio Jones may live up to his billing yet. I’m still pretty amazed I snagged Nelson that late, I think he was like #3 or #4 on my pre-rank list and he should’ve never been in the draft. I’m thankful the stupid autodrafter correctly made my pick there, because if had done something retarded (as it later did drafting me a kicker for no reason in the third round when I had plenty of ranked players available) and I missed Nelson because of that I’d have been furious all year. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336.md?page=3)