# SDMB FF Dynasty League: Year Four

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 15, 2012, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336 "2012-07-15T20:03:42Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/121 "2012-08-23T00:48:50Z")

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Phew. Thought I might actually have to hang on to Blackmon for a while.

ETA: I didn’t trade for Williams 'cause I’m a homer. I traded for him because his floor is 770 yards and 3 touchdowns, while Blackmon’s is 7 years for DUI manslaughter.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/122 "2012-08-23T00:53:56Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> ETA: I didn’t trade for Williams 'cause I’m a homer. I traded for him because his floor is 770 yards and 3 touchdowns, while Blackmon’s is 7 years for DUI manslaughter.

With rosters this deep, I want high ceiling guys, not low floor guys.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/123 "2012-08-23T00:56:13Z")

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I should say, I like the trade for me, but I don’t have any kind of solid objective basis for it: Justin Blackmon simply passed my eyeball test like a motherfucker. Caught a game of his early last year having never heard of him before, and he leapt off the screen to me – _that’s_ what a stud WR looks like. Then I looked him up and saw that he was in fact the top WR prospect and I felt smart. His situation does suck, but in a year or two maybe it won’t.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/124 "2012-08-23T00:58:01Z")

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Tony Gonzalez, Vince Young and Sidney Rice have also been traded twice.

[QUOTE=Hamlet]  
With rosters this deep, I want high ceiling guys, not low floor guys.  
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Williams’ ceiling is just as high as Blackmon’s. Remember, he had 964 yards and 11 touchdowns two seasons ago as a rookie, with a quarterback who was basically a rookie, and with V-Jax across from him he’ll be seeing single coverage again for the foreseeable future.

It’s not so much that I hate Blackmon as I hate his situation. Blaine Gabbert sucks and will continue to suck, and I need production now. Beyond that, I will _always_ value a guy who has shown he can play in the NFL over a guy who has never taken a competitive snap.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/125 "2012-08-23T01:02:29Z")

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Yeah, he’s not a totally dissimilar to Blackmon: a knucklehead with great measurables. Last year’s dip in production worried me, but the upside is still there.

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/126 "2012-08-23T01:13:10Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> I should say, I like the trade for me, but I don’t have any kind of solid objective basis for it: Justin Blackmon simply passed my eyeball test like a motherfucker. Caught a game of his early last year having never heard of him before, and he leapt off the screen to me – _that’s_ what a stud WR looks like. Then I looked him up and saw that he was in fact the top WR prospect and I felt smart. His situation does suck, but in a year or two maybe it won’t.

I saw him in person last year when OSU played Mizzou. He is definitely a playmaker.

I’ll have my pick in the next couple hours. Finely got my sick kid in bed so I now have time to do a little more research.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/127 "2012-08-23T01:14:42Z")

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Looked up my own trade history while I was looking up who else had been traded twice. Amusing reading. Also _totally_ forgot I traded away Tampa’s #1 receiver last year (though he hadn’t signed there yet).

2011:

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> 9 Inch Neils (RNATB) get-  
> Jabar Gaffney (NE - WR)  
> Ben Tate (Hou - RB)  
> Christian Ponder (Min - QB)
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> The Gusterrhoids get-  
> Vincent Jackson (TB - WR)

2010:

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> I get-  
> Anquan Boldin (Bal - WR)
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> Warner’s Brothers get-  
> BenJarvus Green-Ellis (Cin - RB)  
> Fred Taylor (Jac - RB)

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> I get-  
> Ryan Torain (Was - RB)
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> We Do HGH get-  
> Zach Miller (Sea - TE)

2009:

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> I get-  
> Jason Witten (Dal - TE)
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> The Gusterrhoids get-  
> Nate Burleson (Det - WR)

I have absolutely no idea what I did with Witten, but he’s no longer on my team. Weird. I vaguely remember trading him for Reggie Bush, but it doesn’t appear in any of the transaction lists.

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> I get-  
> Owen Daniels (Hou - TE)  
> Josh Morgan (Was - WR)
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> CuteWiddleBunny(Hmlt) get-  
> Brandon Marshall (Chi - WR)  
> Chris Cooley (Was - TE)

Well, it made sense at the time. Cooley had just gone down for the year, and Jermichael Finley was my backup TE… before he got good. Plus, Daniels had something like 600 yards and 5 TDs through 8 games. How could I have known he’d tear his MCL the next week?

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/128 "2012-08-23T01:15:58Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Tony Gonzalez, Vince Young and Sidney Rice have also been traded twice.

Add Jason Witten to the two trade team. I traded Reggie Bush to RNATB for him back.

And save some prospects for those of us who haven’t picked yet! To think, I thought David Wilson might fall to #10.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/129 "2012-08-23T01:20:29Z")

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When did we do that Bush/Witten trade? It doesn’t show up in the transaction list for past seasons on Yahoo.

[ETA: Found it. It was during an offseason.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13170850&postcount=691)

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/130 "2012-08-23T01:43:34Z")

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I assume the Bush/Witten trade was last year (probably preseason), since I don’t believe I got around to doing the trade roundup for 2011.

Hopefully I can go back and do it at some point, though if someone wants to beat me to it I wouldn’t hate that.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/131 "2012-08-23T01:55:21Z")

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> [@RetroVertigo](#):
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> I saw him in person last year when OSU played Mizzou. He is definitely a playmaker.

A college playmaker. Blackmon reminds me too much of Michael Crabtree. But he’s still better than Mike Williams.

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/132 "2012-08-23T02:11:30Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> A college playmaker. Blackmon reminds me too much of Michael Crabtree. But he’s still better than Mike Williams.

I also saw him a few years ago. Different kind of receiver.

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/133 "2012-08-23T02:18:24Z")

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Too late to edit.

And by different I mean that Blackmon doesn’t seem to have a problem running routes that will result in him getting hit. Crabtree always seemed to run outside the numbers.

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/134 "2012-08-23T02:33:57Z")

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Brian Quick WR STL

A reach, but with only two picks I wanted someone with a lot of upside. His leaping ability will make him a factor right away in the red-zone.

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**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/135 "2012-08-23T02:35:33Z")

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Justin\_Bailey is on the clock.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/136 "2012-08-23T03:14:32Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> **Ellis Dee** did say to me that he’s targeting the Giants’ 1st Round RB with this pick unless there was a clear no-brainer still on the board. With the first three picks having gone as expected, I don’t think that’s the case. Therefore:
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> \*\*\*\*\* With the 4th overall pick, Ellis Dee selects David Wilson, Running Back, New York Giants. \*\*\*\*\*

Thanks much, I appreciate the help.

Computer is all squared away now, cleaner than it’s ever been and everything appears to be back the way I like it. Formatting the hard drive was both much more and much less hassle than I expected. Four days to get back up to fighting shape is about what I had figured, so no harm no foul. I’m now back and can resume control of my team.

Apologies for the inconvenience, and thanks much, **VarlosZ**.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/137 "2012-08-23T03:47:27Z")

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Recap:  
1.1 – Exploding Pancakes – Trent Richardson, RB, Cleveland  
1.2 – Ides of Martz – Andrew Luck, RB, Indianapolis  
1.3 – CuteWiddleBunny – Robert Griffin III, QB, Washington  
1.4 – New York Fanboys – David Wilson, RB, NY Giants  
1.5 – Isotopes – Doug Martin, RB, Tampa Bay  
1.6 – Fightin’ Quakers – Russell Wilson, QB, Seattle  
1.7 – Nine Inch Neils (RNATB) - Justin Blackmon, WR, Jax (traded to Varlos)  
1.8 – Varlos’ Zzzzzzz - Michael Floyd, WR, Arizona  
1.9 – RetroVertigo - Brian Quick WR, St. Louis  
1.10 – The Gusterrhoids  
1.11 – We Do HGH  
1.12 – Exploding Pancakes

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/138 "2012-08-23T05:30:13Z")

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I’m not sure I love this pick, but here goes…

**With the 10th pick in the first round, The Gusterrhoids select Alshon Jeffery (WR - CHI)**

We Do HGH (Stringer) is on the clock

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/139 "2012-08-23T12:55:35Z")

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Rush on guys I wanted. Figured one of them would be there.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-four/628336/140 "2012-08-23T13:41:19Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Rush on guys I wanted. Figured one of them would be there.

Good thing you got the first overall pick huh? 😉

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