# SDMB FF Dynasty League: Year Six

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 7, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045 "2014-08-07T17:17:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/701 "2014-12-01T06:45:08Z")

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I’m rooting for you Ellis. Who doesn’t like the underdogs?

I (barely) won and RNATB crushed Petey, which means the division title is on the line next week. Petey and I are likely to play each other twice in a row as the #1 and #4 seed. If Petey wins, that happens. If I win, and I maintain my 22 point scoring lead on Stringer (he has someone playing tomorrow though), that happens. Otherwise Stringer can get the #1 seed.

Points title is a three way race going into the final stretch. It’s only a 32 point spread between the top 3.

Unless I’m missing something, Petey, Stringer, and I have all clinched playoff spots. The Northeast is a race between Justin and Ellis, since Varlos played himself out with this week’s loss. Justin losing and Ellis winning would give Ellis the division.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/702 "2014-12-01T13:23:52Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Unless I’m missing something, Petey, Stringer, and I have all clinched playoff spots. The Northeast is a race between Justin and Ellis, since Varlos played himself out with this week’s loss. Justin losing and Ellis winning would give Ellis the division.

Yup. That’s the way things are shaking out right now.

Although I think if Ellis loses and Dale wins, Ellis would be knocked out of the playoffs and the consolation round.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/703 "2014-12-01T14:09:23Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Unless I’m missing something, Petey, Stringer, and I have all clinched playoff spots. The Northeast is a race between Justin and Ellis, since Varlos played himself out with this week’s loss. Justin losing and Ellis winning would give Ellis the division.

Yup. I was the only one who had a mathematical chance of overtaking you for the wild card, and now I am officially eliminated.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/704 "2014-12-01T16:26:56Z")

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I’m literally too bummed about this season to take another look at the standings and the chance that I could miss the consolation bracket.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/705 "2014-12-01T19:33:52Z")

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> [@VarlosZ](#):
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> I’m literally too bummed about this season to take another look at the standings and the chance that I could miss the consolation bracket.

Pull it together, man! One more win. You can do it.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/706 "2014-12-01T21:01:09Z")

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Don’t feel too bad Varlos. I’m going to trade you Aaron Rodgers for Johnny Manziel.

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**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/707 "2014-12-02T15:10:10Z")

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Beef and I are at 1717 and 1707 heading into the final week. The record for most points in a season is _2229_ for an average of almost 140/week. My how things change.

Edit: I think that includes playoffs actually so never mind.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/708 "2014-12-02T15:28:13Z")

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> [@Stringer](#):
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> Beef and I are at 1717 and 1707 heading into the final week. The record for most points in a season is _2229_ for an average of almost 140/week. My how things change.
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> Edit: I think that includes playoffs actually so never mind.

It does. It looks like the all time regular season scoring champion is Hamlet, when he put up 1935.30 points way back in our first year. No one’s even within spitting distance of 1900 this year.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/709 "2014-12-02T15:35:10Z")

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I waited until it was officially academic to post the highest score in the league this season. Yay.

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> It looks like the all time regular season champion is Hamlet, when he put up 1935.30 points way in our first year. No one’s even within spitting distance of 1900 this year.

There must have been some tweaks since then that I’ve forgotten about, because my (admittedly championship-winning) team scored more than 1800 points that year but was no great shakes. I only had one 1,000 yard rusher, for example.

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**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/710 "2014-12-02T15:39:51Z")

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I am pretty sure we have never tweaked the scoring.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/711 "2014-12-02T15:43:20Z")

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I think we added 25 return yards / point in season 2, and I think maybe safeties from 2 to 4, but otherwise I can’t recall any scoring changes.

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**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/712 "2014-12-02T15:44:25Z")

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Return yards have been around since the beginning, I just looked it up.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/713 "2014-12-02T15:46:40Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> There must have been some tweaks since then that I’ve forgotten about, because my (admittedly championship-winning) team scored more than 1800 points that year but was no great shakes. I only had one 1,000 yard rusher, for example.

Sure, but you had four 1,000 yard receivers and a QB that threw for almost 30 TDs.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/714 "2014-12-02T21:09:33Z")

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I was looking over the stats last week and was surprised by a few things:

20 passing yards = 1 point  
4 points per passing TD  
0.5 PPR  
25 return yards = 1 point

The PPR I actually looked up and was surprised about earlier this season.

To be clear, I am NOT complaining about any of these. In fact, I rather like them. I just didn’t think that was the scoring system we used. I kind of thought it was 30 passing yards per point with 6 points per TD. I also didn’t think we had either return yards or PRR, and I quite like having both.

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**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/715 "2014-12-02T21:21:23Z")

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Yeah the return yards sneakily inflates certain players. Like Jarvis Landry who goes from WR50 to WR19 on return yards alone. It’s hard to bank on that though, Antonio Brown had like 1000 return yards in 2011 but they don’t risk him in the return game as much anymore.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/716 "2014-12-02T21:40:08Z")

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> [@Stringer](#):
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> Yeah the return yards sneakily inflates certain players. Like Jarvis Landry who goes from WR50 to WR19 on return yards alone. It’s hard to bank on that though, Antonio Brown had like 1000 return yards in 2011 but they don’t risk him in the return game as much anymore.

Yep, I’m quite pleased with getting Landry in the 7th round. Probably my best late-round acquisition in this league.

You’re right that it’s tough to bank on, but it’s nice to have on a late round flier.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/717 "2014-12-02T21:43:41Z")

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After setting my roster, yahoo projects a dead heat between me and furt. Go me!

VarlosZ and Justin may not have set their rosters yet, but right now VarlosZ is currently a 10 point underdog. You could do it! Go VarlosZ, it’s your birthday…

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2014, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/718 "2014-12-02T22:07:10Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> I was looking over the stats last week and was surprised by a few things:
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> 20 passing yards = 1 point  
> 4 points per passing TD  
> 0.5 PPR  
> 25 return yards = 1 point
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> The PPR I actually looked up and was surprised about earlier this season.
> 
> To be clear, I am NOT complaining about any of these. In fact, I rather like them. I just didn’t think that was the scoring system we used. I kind of thought it was 30 passing yards per point with 6 points per TD. I also didn’t think we had either return yards or PRR, and I quite like having both.

Our scoring comes mostly out of the system we worked out for the all pro league. We wanted to punish QBs more for mistakes, so we raised the interception penalty and gave a penalty for sacks. To balance this out somewhat, we gave more points for yards.

Return yards were contentious. In retrospect, they’re not a big deal to me, but I do like to give a little extra reward to the players who are both offensive starters and returners. It generally doesn’t turn non-viable players into being viable - the best returning seasons in history wouldn’t generate a worthy starter unless they were also putting up some part time starter points.

PPR - it’s very popular among the more knowledgable fantasy guys, although it’s hard to justify objectively. Mostly it gives some more parity between RBs and WRs that’s actually becoming somewhat outdated since the acceleration of the passing game in recent years boosts the value of WRs anyway.

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**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/719 "2014-12-03T14:11:53Z")

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I was the strong advocate for half PPR in this league and I still think it is the most balanced ruleset. I think it stabilizes the value of WRs somewhat so they aren’t so TD-dependent.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2014, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/720 "2014-12-03T16:28:34Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> VarlosZ and Justin may not have set their rosters yet, but right now VarlosZ is currently a 10 point underdog. You could do it! Go VarlosZ, it’s your birthday…

Unless DeSean Jackson gets scratched at the last minute, my roster is set. I’m feeling pretty good about my chances, but it’s probably a complete coin flip at this point.

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