# SDMB FF Dynasty League: Year Six **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 7, 2014, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045 "2014-08-07T17:17:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/61 "2014-08-21T20:21:19Z")
> [@Stringer](#): > > My cuts and roster are below, leaving me with 22 active, 1 IR player. I think this means I get a 2nd round, 3rd round, and supplemental round pick, right? Or does trading away my first round pick mean I only get the 2nd round pick and I have to fill the last spot on my roster with an FA post-draft? Heheh, ok, getting complicated now. I have to think for a second. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/62 "2014-08-21T20:38:09Z")
Ok, let’s do this in order. 1. You’re dropping 4 out of 27 players, giving you 1st & 2nd Round picks. 2. You’ve traded away your 1st Rounder, and since that trade didn’t specify a balancing pick or player coming back to you this year, that means your last roster spot get’s filled with a placeholder pick so you can exit the draft with exactly 25 as Yahoo requires. After the draft you drop the placeholder and fill the spot as you normally would via waivers/FA (or via a 2-1 trade, theoretically). \*\*\* 3. One of the 23 players you’re keeping is already declared for IR, which we’re doing manually. This year, that means that after draft, you and anyone else keeping an IR-declared player will enter into a supplemental draft, following the same rules and order as the standard draft. 4. Which all winds up with you having just the 2.5 pick and a pick in the supplemental round, then exiting the draft with a de facto 24 players (plus one on IR), and you’ll fill that last roster spot however you want. Sorry it comes out as sort of an unappealing resolution for you, but that’s how we’ve set things up for now. Still time to edit your drops if you want a 3rd Rounder. In theory, you could also quickly (today or tomorrow) work out an unbalanced trade in the other direction with a team that traded for an extra pick this year – it might be easy to find a little one that’s mutually beneficial. \*\*\* = Note: As always, I strongly encourage everyone to make trades involving future draft picks numerically balanced for just this reason; it doesn’t even have to cost the the team receiving the draft pick anything, since that team must otherwise \*forfeit \*it’s last pick to get down to 25. “I get your 1st Rounder next year and you get my last draft pick (which I’d lose anyway),” is the easiest and most mutually beneficial form for everyone, and helps all involved keep in mind exactly what the trade is getting them and costing them. ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/63 "2014-08-21T20:46:20Z")
Thanks for figuring that out for me. This league is too complicated! I guess I’ll drop Bilal Powell’s corpse so I get a 3rd round pick, he sucks anyway. ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/64 "2014-08-21T20:58:27Z")
> [@VarlosZ](#): > > Anyone who hasn’t, get those entered ASAP – like I said, I \*think \*you have all of Friday to decide, but Yahoo isn’t exactly clear on this, so it might be just another 12 hours. Deadline is 11:59 PT tonight (21Aug14). ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/65 "2014-08-21T21:05:23Z")
> [@Stringer](#): > > I guess I’ll drop Bilal Powell’s corpse so I get a 3rd round pick, he sucks anyway. Ok, good call I think. And I’m trying to work out how a balancing trade (with dale or RNATB, who both have to forfeit a pick as it stands) might be accomplished. There should be some free equity to divy up, but I’m not sure how. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/66 "2014-08-21T21:06:34Z")
> [@RetroVertigo](#): > > Deadline is 11:59 PT tonight (21Aug14). Ah, thanks. Where did you see that? ---
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/67 "2014-08-21T21:37:37Z")
> [@VarlosZ](#): > > Ah, thanks. Where did you see that? A banner above the keeper page on the league webpage. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/68 "2014-08-21T21:49:07Z")
I feel like it was different last year for some reason, like Friday deadline meant “Friday night.” Anyway, I’ll send out another reminder just so people know. We’ll take tomorrow to get the keepers and draft picks and schedules all in order, and to give people another chance for pre-draft trade talks. (Probably if anyone is desperate to revise their cuts tomorrow while that’s going on I won’t mind, don’t think it’ll be any problem for me to change them manually on the Yahoo page.) Then we’ll have a soft start to the draft on Saturday morning, as in past years. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/69 "2014-08-22T00:16:34Z")
Warner Brother’s cuts: Sidney Rice Andre Roberts Santana Moss LaRod Stephens-Howling Devin Hester Sebastian Janikowski Oakland D/ST ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/70 "2014-08-22T00:55:35Z")
I intend to drop at least 3 players, so this question is purely hypothetical: I traded my 3rd round pick and a player to senorbeef for beef’s first round pick. If I only drop two players, how would that work? Would I get two first round picks (mine and beef’s), or just my first and second since I never “created” the 3rd round pick to trade away, and beef keeps his first rounder? Or does it simply mean that trading away a 3rd round pick (as opposed to “my last pick”) requires me to drop at least three players even if it turned out I didn’t want to? ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/71 "2014-08-22T01:13:19Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > I intend to drop at least 3 players, so this question is purely hypothetical: > > I traded my 3rd round pick and a player to senorbeef for beef’s first round pick. If I only drop two players, how would that work? Would I get two first round picks (mine and beef’s), or just my first and second since I never “created” the 3rd round pick to trade away, and beef keeps his first rounder? Or does it simply mean that trading away a 3rd round pick (as opposed to “my last pick”) requires me to drop at least three players even if it turned out I didn’t want to? I would assume that if you traded your 3rd round pick, you traded your pick closest to that pick that you do have. So you would have to give up your second round pick. I think that you can’t trade what you don’t have, so you’ll end up being forced to trade what you do, that being your second round pick. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/72 "2014-08-22T01:37:44Z")
Can I tell you how much I hate that fact that fantasy sites make it basically impossible to export or copy your players to excel? Would that be so damn hard? **Cuts** Terrelle Pryor Sea - QB Tony Gonzalez Atl - TE Jason Avant Car - WR Ryan Succop KC - K Miami Mia - DEF **Ides of Martz** Andrew Luck Ind - QB Ben Roethlisberger Pit - QB Jake Locker Ten - QB DeAngelo Williams Car - RB DeMarco Murray Dal - RB Donald Brown SD - RB Christine Michael Sea - RB Bryce Brown Buf - RB Lance Dunbar Dal - RB Torrey Smith Bal - WR Wes Welker Den - WR Cecil Shorts III Jax - WR Danny Amendola NE - WR Golden Tate Det - WR Nate Washington Ten - WR Aaron Dobson NE - WR Julio Jones Atl - WR Kyle Rudolph Min - TE Dwayne Allen Ind - TE Matt Prater Den - K Kansas City KC - DEF I think I did that right. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/73 "2014-08-22T01:38:48Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I would assume that if you traded your 3rd round pick, you traded your pick closest to that pick that you do have. So you would have to give up your second round pick. I think that you can’t trade what you don’t have, so you’ll end up being forced to trade what you do, that being your second round pick. Makes perfect sense, thanks much. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/74 "2014-08-22T01:40:49Z")
Just an FYI, I’m out of town all weekend. Didn’t notice when the draft was due to start in the thread any where, but I won’t be responsive until Sunday night. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/75 "2014-08-22T01:58:45Z")
New York Fanboys cut list: David Wilson (RB-NYG) Tiquan Underwood (WR-Car) Rishard Matthews (WR-Mia) Chris Ogbonnaya (RB-Cle) Fozzy Whittaker (RB-Car) Mario Manningham (WR-NYG) Indianapolis (DEF-Ind) (unknown player who isn’t in the league anymore, I’m guessing) For a total of 8 draft picks. I chose to keep 17 guys, and cut the above 7, which means I need to draft 8 guys to fill up my 25-man roster. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/76 "2014-08-22T02:14:55Z")
> [@Hamlet](#): > > I would assume that if you traded your 3rd round pick, you traded your pick closest to that pick that you do have. So you would have to give up your second round pick. I think that you can’t trade what you don’t have, so you’ll end up being forced to trade what you do, that being your second round pick. That would be it as a last resort. It would usually make more sense to just go back and cut enough players, unless it’s a like a 5th Rounder we’re talking about or your roster is ridonkulous. You’d also be free to come to some sort of other arrangement with your trade partner. > [@Omniscient](#): > > Just an FYI, I’m out of town all weekend. Didn’t notice when the draft was due to start in the thread any where, but I won’t be responsive until Sunday night. Shouldn’t be a problem, but feel free to leave a pre-rankings list in my inbox if you want. Most likely your pick will roll around right about Sunday night/Monday morning, but that’s a bit of a guess. Couldn’t be \*much \*earlier than that, may well be later. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/77 "2014-08-22T06:59:50Z")
I got an initial keeper list under the buzzer, but I may end up making a tweak or two tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/78 "2014-08-22T07:41:03Z")
Aww, that blows. Last year, after everyone’s keepers were approved on the Yahoo page, Yahoo just automatically set up our draft almost exactly as we’d want it. This year I have manually enter them once again, like back in olden times. Not a big deal, but very unusual for Yahoo to regress like this. Oh well. Going to bed, I’ll input the keepers and execute the trades tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/79 "2014-08-22T07:48:06Z")
It’s possible there’s some sort of delay on it and it’ll eventually go through. Otherwise what’s the point of having players declare their keepers? I think they said they have a new roster management interface this year, which is sorely needed, but I haven’t used it yet. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2014, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045/80 "2014-08-22T19:38:11Z")
I’m giving MY FIRST PICK!!! which just happens to be 2.10 to gamble on Kenny Britt having his head out of his ass and his knee on straight. I know the guy I want is going to be there now at 2.10 and gone by 3.2 now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-six/695045.md?page=5)