# SDMB FF Dynasty League: Year Three

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 9, 2011, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388 "2011-07-09T05:27:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/321 "2011-11-13T21:11:27Z")

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Since Dallas Clark is out, I’m really hoping that this gets retroactively fixed. Hopefully **Varlos** can weigh in soon.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/322 "2011-11-13T21:14:15Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Yeah, it’s automatic in my other leagues (if both players make it clear they intend for the trade to go through) so I didn’t even think about it. The 48 hour thing is designed for public leagues or other generally hands-off leagues that might require player intervention in those sorts of matters and who may have an absentee or biased commish. Also, SDMBers don’t like to object to trades and I don’t remember having a trade voided by anyone in our long history, even with some lopsided trades. None of us are going to dump players when our season is over or otherwise ruin the league, so we’re not really the people that the default 48 hour system is designed to protect against.
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> Otherwise you have to get trades down before 1pm ET friday morning for them to go through, which is kinda rough when maybe you don’t know the injury status by then, maybe a player got injured late in the week, maybe you’ve been negotiating with the other owner for a few days and it’s already friday, etc etc. I just like to give people the max amount of time available to work trades.
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> What I would personally do, since Varlos may not make it back in time, is to have Omni declare his intent (who would be benched in favor of Cribbs) and have Varlos fix it retroactively. But it’s not my league, so it’s up to him.
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> FWIW, it doesn’t matter to me a bit as far as self interest because I’d bench both of them. I just don’t want Omni to get screwed if he was expecting the trade fast as per standard procedure in the other leagues.

I didn’t see this before kickoff, but last night I removed Cribbs from my starting lineup and slotted in waiver wire fodder for my TE spot just in case. I’m assuming that there’s no one out there thinking that I’d actually pick Pitta over Gonzo. Hopefully **Varlos** weighs in before Pitta turns in his 80 yard, 2 TD performance in the late game making me flip the fuck out.

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**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/323 "2011-11-14T05:20:09Z")

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2 weeks in a row I should have played Carson Fucking Palmer over Vick and Cutler. What is this world coming to!

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/324 "2011-11-14T09:11:28Z")

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Crap, didn’t see this until now, was at a high school speech & debate tourney this weekend w/o wi-fi.

My stated policy has always been that trades will not be fast-tracked as a matter of course, but \*\*\*can \*\*\*be if I feel the circumstances warrant it. In this case, the trade is thunderously non-controversial, \*\*Omni \*\*adjusted his starting roster on the assumption that the trade would go through, it’s really obvious who \*\*Omni \*\*would have started, retro-fixing the rosters won’t change the result of the game (thank god), and I feel bad about missing this yesterday night. So, once the trade goes through, I’ll retroactively slot Gonzo in for \*\*Omni \*\*in the TE spot (which will net him about 9 additional points).

Obviously no one did anything wrong here, but, just for future reference, I’d reiterate that everyone should count on trades taking 2 days to process, so plan accordingly.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/325 "2011-11-14T14:26:15Z")

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With no one left to play, I’m thoroughly boned this week.

Ponder/Gabbert/Tate/Jacobs are still up on the trading block for the right WR.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/326 "2011-11-14T14:47:36Z")

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So, I need 20 points from Mason Crosby. That’s… a lot.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/327 "2011-11-15T02:01:21Z")

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I may be screwed. I need 50 points out of my Green Bay players, but the early defensive TD and the TD to the one GB player I don’t own is a bad start. And they’re going to get out ahead so fast that they’re going to stop scoring. Damn.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/328 "2011-11-15T02:13:28Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> So, I need 20 points from Mason Crosby. That’s… a lot.

10% of th e way there.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/329 "2011-11-15T02:30:15Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> 10% of th e way there.

25%

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/330 "2011-11-15T15:23:46Z")

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Oh well. I’m now tied with **Beef** , which means our game next week will more than likely decide who wins the division.

Schaub’s injury is not exactly helpful to my cause.

Who wants to trade me a quarterback?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/331 "2011-11-15T15:24:59Z")

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I might still have John Beck!

Edit: No, I don’t. I guess you can put together a package for Rodgers.

I think I can still win the division even if I lose to you next week but it’d be difficult. I’m probably going to make it in as a wild card if not, but then I’d rather wait to face Stringer in the championship and not the first game.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/332 "2011-11-15T16:40:02Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Who wants to trade me a quarterback?

I’ve got Christian Ponder and Blaine Gabbert up for trade if you’re willing to part with a good WR.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/333 "2011-11-15T17:18:53Z")

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Not for them, I’m not. I would give up Meachem for Ponder.

I’d give up more for Andy Dalton.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/334 "2011-11-15T17:24:08Z")

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This is the league of lowball trade offers. No one is even in the right ballpark with values IMO.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/335 "2011-11-15T17:34:05Z")

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That’s because we all weigh present and future value differently. I’m a “win now” kind of guy (as is Justin).

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/336 "2011-11-15T17:44:25Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> This is the league of lowball trade offers. No one is even in the right ballpark with values IMO.

At least you got rid of one from your glut of TE’s finally.

People value players differently, go figure. I think your estimation of value on Finley is too high, you think it’s right. You think my estimation of value on Eric Decker or Steve Smith is too high, I think it’s right. So trades don’t get made. Viva la difference.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/337 "2011-11-15T17:47:33Z")

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I’d have traded Finley for a tier 3 receiver, so my valuation isn’t that high I don’t think. I mean, people were offering me scraps like Jerome Simpson and Jacoby Jones.

If I had cut Finley at the end of last year, he’d probably be a top 3-4 pick in our draft. Those other players would be round 3-4 guys. That says the value is nowhere near right.

In any case, for dismissing those sorts of scraps, I was dismissed as “holding out for Calvin Johnson”, which made little sense since there’s an obviously huge gap between Jacoby Jones and Calvin Johnson.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/338 "2011-11-15T18:07:13Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> That’s because we all weigh present and future value differently. I’m a “win now” kind of guy (as is Justin).

True. I think the last dozen posts I’ve made to this thread have been pleas to obtain a top-flight WR because I want to win this year.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/339 "2011-11-15T19:04:18Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> True. I think the last dozen posts I’ve made to this thread have been pleas to obtain a top-flight WR because I want to win this year.

I’m building for the future. If I had top flight WRs to spare I wouldn’t be.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2011, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/340 "2011-11-15T19:11:27Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> I’m building for the future. If I had top flight WRs to spare I wouldn’t be.

What if I dangled Ben Tate, Christian Ponder and a WR Not Named Roddy White in front of you for Wes Welker?

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