# SDMB FF Dynasty League: Year Three

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 9, 2011, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388 "2011-07-09T05:27:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/381 "2011-11-21T16:05:19Z")

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The projections have been pretty on the spot for me this year.

Week 11: Projected 128, actual 123 with Gronk still to play  
10: 144/129  
9: 131/127  
8: 105/112  
7: 113/111

Face it RNATB, your string of flukey wins has come to an end. You’ll finish 3rd in the divison!

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/382 "2011-11-22T00:34:41Z")

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Dale needs 21 points out of Breaston and Green Ellis to beat Hamlet.

Omni has a 5 point lead, Welker, and McCluster against Justin Bailey’s Branch and Gostkowski.

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**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/383 "2011-11-22T06:10:35Z")

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With Cutler likely out for the rest of the fantasy season and Vick nursing broken ribs, I am pretty glad I was able to get Carson Palmer for only $36.

I can clinch my division with a win this week against **RetroVertigo** , but he has much better matchups than I do.

And Beef coming on strong lately with his all-Packers offense. It’ll be interesting to see how that division plays out.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/384 "2011-11-22T06:17:51Z")

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That was a heck of a lot closer than it should have been.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/385 "2011-11-22T13:40:45Z")

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> [@Omniscient](#):
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> That was a heck of a lot closer than it should have been.

Yeah it was. I would have won if the Patriots kicked the field goal on their last drive instead of running it in on 4th and 4.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/386 "2011-11-22T16:17:24Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> Yeah it was. I would have won if the Patriots kicked the field goal on their last drive instead of running it in on 4th and 4.

Good thing for me that Belichick wasn’t pissed at the Chiefs and Todd Haley this year.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/387 "2011-11-22T17:15:00Z")

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In past years the first tiebreaker was Divisional Record, but this year its Points. Did that get changed and I just don’t remember?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/388 "2011-11-22T17:38:39Z")

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The first tiebreaker is head-to-head record. That’s why I was ahead of **Beef** last week.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/389 "2011-11-22T17:43:42Z")

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Are you sure? I think the tiebreaker for the division win is division record, but amongst wild card contenders it’s points.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/390 "2011-11-22T18:07:46Z")

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I thought it was division record but then I noticed **furt** is in third place in the Northeast division despite a better division record than **Varlos.** It can’t be points, because as you’ll remember I was ahead of you last week despite having fewer points.

> [@](#):
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> 1. The Gusterrhoids 7-4-0 .636 3-0-0 1189.50 1129.77 L-2 $69 5
> 2. Varlos’ Zzzzzzz 5-6-0 .455 1-2-0 1240.78 1268.36 W-1 $100 5
> 3. Fightin’ Quakers 5-6-0 .455 2-1-0 1202.91 1188.16 L-1 $110 9
> 4. 
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> New York Fanboys 4-7-0 .364 0-3-0 1173.10 1339.38 L-2 $102 3
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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/391 "2011-11-22T18:11:05Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Are you sure? I think the tiebreaker for the division win is division record, but amongst wild card contenders it’s points.

OK, that makes sense. Carry on. Nothing to see here.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/392 "2011-11-22T18:13:24Z")

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[Tiebreakers for division leagues](http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/sports/fantasysports/football/scoring/football-163.html)

It says divison winning percentage and total fantasy points as the first two for the division win, and overall win percentage and fantasy points scored for the first 2 in wildcards.

But

“In leagues where division winners are guaranteed a playoff spot, Wild Card teams are selected without consideration for divisions. Non-division winners will be ranked in the playoffs according to winning percentage.”

So I think the first 3 seeds are done by the division winner tiebreaker, but then after that, maybe it’s points? In other words, for all matters except determining the division winner, total points is the tiebreaker. That’s my guess.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/393 "2011-11-22T18:16:50Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> So I think the first 3 seeds are done by the division winner tiebreaker, but then after that, maybe it’s points? In other words, for all matters except determining the division winner, total points is the tiebreaker. That’s my guess.

That’s what I got from that page too.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/394 "2011-11-22T18:27:52Z")

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With that settled, we can talk about the end-of-the-year divisional matchups and the playoff picture.

In the Northeast Corridor, I’ll take the division with two wins OR a loss by furt and a loss by Varlos OR a victory in this week’s game against furt.

In the Midwest, Stringer takes the division with a win OR a loss by RetroVertigo.

In the Sunbelt… the hell if I know. Two wins by Beef would more or less lock up the division, but RNATB or Petey could still run the last three games and sneak in there if he gets those two wins.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/395 "2011-11-22T18:33:15Z")

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With my projected matchups I’d say there’s at least an 80% chance I win my division, but even if I somehow don’t, it’s very likely I get the wildcard spot. I crush anyone on tiebreaker points and my main contenders are also in the division - meaning if someone else wins the division that’s one less competitor for the wildcard slot, and since Isotopes and RNATB play each other, it’s very unlikely they’ll both somehow win the division and the wildcard slot - so unlikely I’m not even going to do the work to figure out if it’s impossible 😛

Guessing now, we’d have

1. Stringer
2. SenorBeef
3. Justin Bailey
4. Isotopes

Which would be fine with me, I’d get to play what will probably be the lowest scoring playoff team, and Stringer and I could have a dramatic championship\*

\*now that I’ve said that, I lose in round 1

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/396 "2011-11-22T18:42:30Z")

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Bah.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/397 "2011-11-22T18:47:56Z")

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If it makes you feel any better RNATB, I will try to put you out of your misery this week so that your agony does not have to go on long. I’d be amazed if you managed to beat me this week. Then again, I have all my eggs tied up so hard in one basket that an off week could do me in. But… Green Bay at Detroit on Thanksgiving is not likely to be that day.

I will make you all rue the day that I was desperately trying to get rid of Gronkowski and no one had the slightest bit of interest. (I did get some interest for Finley btw, working on that, thanks)

Also, Jordy Nelson is the #5 WR. How nuts is that? I had him #3 or #4 on my draft board this year, but even I didn’t see this coming. At least the autopicker got one of my picks right. Who cut him?

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/398 "2011-11-22T18:51:16Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> With my projected matchups I’d say there’s at least an 80% chance I win my division, but even if I somehow don’t, it’s very likely I get the wildcard spot. I crush anyone on tiebreaker points and my main contenders are also in the division - meaning if someone else wins the division that’s one less competitor for the wildcard slot, and since Isotopes and RNATB play each other, it’s very unlikely they’ll both somehow win the division and the wildcard slot - so unlikely I’m not even going to do the work to figure out if it’s impossible 😛

If you lose all three of your remaining games, you’re out.

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**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/399 "2011-11-22T18:58:16Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Which would be fine with me, I’d get to play what will probably be the lowest scoring playoff team, and Stringer and I could have a dramatic championship\*

The best part about this is that I have really good week 16 matchups, AND the Packers are playing my fearsome Bears defense on Sunday night.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/400 "2011-11-22T19:00:34Z")

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Yeah, the championship week is not fantastic for me.

Quick, someone trade for all my GB players in exchange for players with better week 16 matchups.

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