# SDMB FF Dynasty League: Year Three **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 9, 2011, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388 "2011-07-09T05:27:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![RetroVertigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@RetroVertigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RetroVertigo)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/621 "2012-07-07T15:05:09Z")
I would love to do this. It would allow for more discussion on picks, and more time for trades to take place. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/622 "2012-07-07T16:25:06Z")
> [@Stringer](#): > > I’m good with it but wary. We need some kind of time limit and a rule on what we do when time expires. If people have 12 hours, I see no reason to bother with pre-ranking. If you can’t make your pick in that amount of time, that’s your problem. We should do what the NFL does: put the next player on the clock, and let the guy who missed his pick make it when he makes it. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/623 "2012-07-07T17:50:27Z")
How about starting around Saturday August 25 at 8 PM Eastern? The Redskins play the Colts at 4 PM EST, and I’m sure I’m not the only one interested in the Luck vs RGIII game. I’ve got the first pick, if I keep it, this would be a perfect time for me to make my 1st pick after watching this game. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/624 "2012-07-07T17:59:58Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > If people have 12 hours, I see no reason to bother with pre-ranking. If you can’t make your pick in that amount of time, that’s your problem. We should do what the NFL does: put the next player on the clock, and let the guy who missed his pick make it when he makes it. I see no reason to put people in a bad position. Say they’re going out for the weekend and only have intermittent internet access, their pick is up in 4 picks, and they have a good idea of who they want. Why put them in a position where they may have to inconvenience themselves when they could just fire off a quick prerank list of 4 players? Plus it would keep the draft going faster for us - we wouldn’t need 12 hours of dead air to know their intent. The only downside is that Varlos would have the ability to see their intent early and snatch out a player in front of them, but I trust him not to look until the person’s pick is due and if that’s a big concern for anyone they could just choose never to submit a pre-rank list. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/625 "2012-07-07T18:46:57Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > How about starting around Saturday August 25 at 8 PM Eastern? The Redskins play the Colts at 4 PM EST, and I’m sure I’m not the only one interested in the Luck vs RGIII game. I’ve got the first pick, if I keep it, this would be a perfect time for me to make my 1st pick after watching this game. I like this idea. Especially since the first round would probably move like lightning on Sunday. And that would mean a final cut date of August 20 or so, yes? ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/626 "2012-07-07T18:58:41Z")
Aug 20 sounds like a good day for final cuts, 2 weeks of preseason done with. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2012, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/627 "2012-07-07T19:04:20Z")
Those dates are good with me. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2012, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/628 "2012-07-14T07:18:17Z")
How are we going to settle on the draft? Majority? 2/3rds? Unanimous? Would be good if everyone weighed in. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2012, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/629 "2012-07-14T14:49:09Z")
Majority rules. > [@SenorBeef](#): > > I see no reason to put people in a bad position. Say they’re going out for the weekend and only have intermittent internet access, their pick is up in 4 picks, and they have a good idea of who they want. Why put them in a position where they may have to inconvenience themselves when they could just fire off a quick prerank list of 4 players? That’s different. I have no problem with somebody making a pick beforehand - listing their five choices for _that pick_, or whatever. I’m just saying that if somebody doesn’t announce their choice beforehand the consequences should be theirs. Alternatively, they could just PM somebody else their pick. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/630 "2012-07-14T16:37:29Z")
That’s what you seemed to be saying, ie if people aren’t around to make their pick, they lose it. Allowing prerank lists speeds up the process and handles more contingencies. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2012, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/631 "2012-07-14T16:51:10Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Majority rules. We’ve already got 6/12 voting “yes,” so we only need one more for majority rules. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2012, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/632 "2012-07-14T16:53:29Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > That’s what you seemed to be saying, ie if people aren’t around to make their pick, they lose it. Allowing prerank lists speeds up the process and handles more contingencies. I am saying that. However, I’m willing to allow people to make a shortlist in advance for a _specific pick_. “Prerank list” to me implies a full list of players; I think if we’re doing a 12 hour window, people should have to actually make their picks, for the most part. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2012, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/633 "2012-07-14T16:59:07Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I am saying that. However, I’m willing to allow people to make a shortlist in advance for a _specific pick_. “Prerank list” to me implies a full list of players; I think if we’re doing a 12 hour window, people should have to actually make their picks, for the most part. I think Beef’s 4-5 pick prerank list would work fine. I even think you could do it in-thread as I think we’re all pretty trustworthy. It could look like this… My next pick is in four picks, if I’m not around, these are my prerank selections: Andrew Luck RG3 Trent Richardson Justin Blackmon ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/634 "2012-07-14T17:00:57Z")
Yeah, I’m perfectly cool with that. I just think there should be a penalty for those who can’t be arsed to show up for most of their picks. I mean, most of us will only be drafting 3-4 players anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/635 "2012-07-15T00:27:03Z")
I think if you don’t post your pick in time you should lose it. A 12 hour window isn’t long enough with in today’s world of ubiquitous internet access? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/636 "2012-07-15T01:25:19Z")
What’s the motivation to be punishing? It hurts the person drafting, obviously, but it also hurts us - if a guy knows who he’ll draft, we don’t have to wait hours until he gets to his computer and it speeds the draft up. Otherwise we have to wait the 12 hours with no activity. If someone isn’t around for 12 hours and they don’t submit a list, then yeah, they lose their pick - but allowing them the option of pre-submitting picks is win/win. ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/637 "2012-07-15T01:30:13Z")
I wasn’t saying I was against pre-selecting picks I just don’t want to make this too complicated. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/638 "2012-07-15T01:52:50Z")
Let’s just do a live draft in-thread. None of this 12 hour window crap, pick a time, we all show up, in 30 minutes we’re done. Anyone missing the draft gets yahoo default ranking autopicks. ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/639 "2012-07-15T01:54:54Z")
That sounds better to me. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388/640 "2012-07-15T02:08:55Z")
You guys are all making it sound more complex than it ever was. Larger windows makes it more interesting, with more trade possibilities. People are raising non-issues and blowing them up as big concerns. It’ll work fine as originally proposed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-three/588388.md?page=33)