# SDMB FF Dynasty League: Year Two **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 1, 2010, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181 "2010-07-01T12:11:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/21 "2010-07-06T01:29:46Z")
Like a moth to a flame, I am irrestiably attracted to these first whiffs of the approaching fantasy football season. Although it’s early, I’m starting to get excited. My thoughts on the league: You should all just give up now. Only the most godawful luck has cost me the inaugural season’s championship, and things will only get better with another chance for me to draft. More realistic thoughts: 1. Draft Date - I’m good with almost anything. The only thing I’d ask is that we set the date earlier rather than later so I can get it in my schedule and work around it. 2. Keeper Declaration/Cut Deadline - I’d like a week to for prep work on available players, but anything is good. 3. Off-Season Trade Deadline - I think we should allow trading up until keeper declaration. 4. Divisional Realignment - I understand the desire to keep it competitive, but if playoff spots are awarded (in part) by division, it strikes me as a tad unfair to force the best teams to face each other more often. But, again, I’m flexible. 5. Return Yards - I was against them before, but I also don’t want to drastically change the rules year to year. I’d like a decrease in the points, but not a complete elimation. 6. Waiver-Wire - I like the auction. 7. Basic Keeper Structure - unlimited sounds best. ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/22 "2010-07-07T02:30:40Z")
> [@EllisDee](#): > > 1. Divisional Realignment > As one of the very worst teams in the league, I vote for realignment to favor the good teams. Specifically, complete realigment similar to tournament seeding ala NCAA hoops or tennis grand slams. The top 3 teams go in separate divisions, as do the bottom 3. Seedings based on total points as a better reflection of quality. So the divisions might end up being, based on point rankings: > 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th > 2nd, 5th, 8th, 11th > 3rd, 6th, 9th, 12th > This rewards the best teams by giving them the best chance to face each other in the playoffs, and keeps the head-to-head matchups as reasonably fair as can be expected. Didn’t see this before, but this is kind of a neat idea. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/23 "2010-07-07T04:04:49Z")
Under Ellis’ proposal, I would be in Division 2 (since Hamlet outpointed me) with Deliverance, Varlos and Exploding Pancakes. Two last-place finishers and one third-place finisher. I like! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/24 "2010-08-05T19:13:14Z")
Draft is in a month! Do we have any resolution on the topics for discussion? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/25 "2010-08-05T19:40:30Z")
I resolve to trade one of my tight ends. Hey, **Hamlet** , you want Owen Daniels back? You can have him or Witten for any of your top three wideouts. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/26 "2010-08-05T21:37:04Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I resolve to trade one of my tight ends. Hey, **Hamlet** , you want Owen Daniels back? You can have him or Witten for any of your top three wideouts. With Vernon Davis and Cooley coming back, I’m not sure I need another TE. Besides, I’m afraid he’d just get injured the second after I get him. 🙂 I’m starting to get my crap together for this year. A quick look at my roster, and I think I’ll be dumping just two guys. I’ve never done a dynasty league like this before, so I’m still trying to figure out a good strategery. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/27 "2010-08-06T02:40:18Z")
I need help at RB. I’ll trade anyone but Drew Brees and Andre Johnson. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/28 "2010-08-06T03:09:15Z")
Okay… does _anyone_ want Witten or Owen Daniels? 🙂 Daniels is going especially cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/29 "2010-08-06T11:10:44Z")
Brett Favre is on the trading block as well. You don’t think he’s actually going to retire do you? Ha! I say! ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/30 "2010-08-06T13:12:42Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > Brett Favre is on the trading block as well. You don’t think he’s actually going to retire do you? Ha! I say! You already traded Brett Favre to me man. 😛 > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Okay… does _anyone_ want Witten or Owen Daniels? 🙂 Daniels is going especially cheap. I’d be interested, who would you want from me in exchange? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/31 "2010-08-06T13:23:06Z")
You can have him and any combination of my running backs not named Benson or Turner for Rice or Charles. Or Forte, for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/32 "2010-08-06T13:53:40Z")
> [@Stringer](#): > > > [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > > > Brett Favre is on the trading block as well. You don’t think he’s actually going to retire do you? Ha! I say! > > You already traded Brett Favre to me man. 😛 That’s right. See! Favre’s indecisiveness about his “retirement” made me forget I traded him at the end of last season! ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/33 "2010-08-06T13:57:54Z")
I suppose no room for another player…but if anyone needs to bail on the team before the start of the season, I can step in. Will hopefully do better than I’m doing in our baseball league… :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/34 "2010-08-06T14:10:01Z")
My Favre obsession notwithstanding, I am in the market for a TE. So **RNATB** , if anyone from my team interests you, make me an offer. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2010, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/35 "2010-08-06T14:21:14Z")
You can have Witten or Daniels for Reggie Bush, if you like. I’ll throw in a scrub with Daniels. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/36 "2010-08-07T02:24:13Z")
Ok, I think it goes without saying that offseason trading is now open. We’ve had 8 people weigh in on the various question, which I suppose constitutes a quorum. Dates & Deadlines: 1. Everyone seems fine with an early draft, and that’s my preference, so let’s do it the last weekend of August (28-29th). I’ve never figured out whether it’s better to do these on Saturday (getting in the way of people’s social life) or Sunday (getting in the way of people’s work sleep). So, anyone with a preference chime in, and we’ll start it at 9 or 10 Eastern. 2. Some folks wanted the cut deadline a week before the draft, others just a day or two. Split the baby? Midnight on the _night_ of Monday the 23rd, giving everyone the preceding weekend to decide? 3. As for the trade deadline, if the only problem with extending it past the cut deadline is that it’s a pain for me to go back and adjust the keepers on Yahoo, that’s not a big deal for me; I wouldn’t expect many trades, and AFAIK I don’t have to re-enter every keeper if I want to change a couple. So, I’m fine with having the trade deadline run to 1 day before the draft, unless anyone has a different kind of objection. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/37 "2010-08-07T02:31:19Z")
1. Most people seem opposed to re-aligning the divisions so that the strongest teams are together, though a relegation system fairs a little better. A few people liked **Ellis** ’s idea of _splitting up_ the strongest teams. Further discussion required, I suppose. 2. So far only one person has voted for changing return yards to 30 yards/point (from 25), so we’ll probably be keeping it as is. 3. Looks like last year’s auction waiver wire is back. We’ll probably add $2-$3 dollars per slot from the top team (which gets $100, if memory serves). 4. Not much support for moving off of full keepers so far. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/38 "2010-08-07T03:18:21Z")
> [@VarlosZ](#): > > Dates & Deadlines: > > 1. Everyone seems fine with an early draft, and that’s my preference, so let’s do it the last weekend of August (28-29th). I’ve never figured out whether it’s better to do these on Saturday (getting in the way of people’s social life) or Sunday (getting in the way of people’s work sleep). So, anyone with a preference chime in, and we’ll start it at 9 or 10 Eastern. My live draft is on that Saturday the 28th. I’ll likely be happily incoherent all that day, as well as recovering on the 29th. I shouldn’t have a problem on the night of the 29th though. If that’s a problem, I completely understand. I anticipate making only 2 or maybe 3 picks in the draft and can easily send a proxy list to you. Just let me know. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/39 "2010-08-07T03:34:56Z")
I will have school every night but Friday. ☹ If the draft is after 9pm ET, it won’t be a problem… ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/40 "2010-08-07T04:46:56Z")
> [@VarlosZ](#): > > 1. As for the trade deadline, if the only problem with extending it past the cut deadline is that it’s a pain for me to go back and adjust the keepers on Yahoo, that’s not a big deal for me; I wouldn’t expect many trades, and AFAIK I don’t have to re-enter every keeper if I want to change a couple. So, I’m fine with having the trade deadline run to 1 day before the draft, unless anyone has a different kind of objection. Yep, it’s purely a logistical issue for the commish. Fair warning that it’s not unusual for me to get a couple last-minute trades trying to be pushed through the night of the trade deadline in the keeper league, spilling over to the next day. I of course let these go through, secure in the knowledge that I have plenty of time to set and recheck everything in the league before draft time. I personally would be nervous dealing with stuff the night before the draft. But that’s largely my own control issues at play. If you’re comfortable with a deadline closer to the draft, there’s no reason not to do it. Just be sure to leave a reasonable amount of time for people to declare their keepers. (After the trading period but before draft. 2-3 days, maybe?) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181.md?page=3)