# SDMB FF Dynasty League: Year Two **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 1, 2010, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181 "2010-07-01T12:11:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/41 "2010-08-07T05:30:33Z")
> [@VarlosZ](#): > > 1. Most people seem opposed to re-aligning the divisions so that the strongest teams are together, though a relegation system fairs a little better. A few people liked **Ellis** ’s idea of _splitting up_ the strongest teams. Further discussion required, I suppose. I think **Ellis** ’ suggestion on splitting up the teams is probably the best realignment plan there is. If other people want to do it, I’d be game. However, I’d also be done with keeping everything as is, so I guess it depends on how others feel about it. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/42 "2010-08-07T15:25:18Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > You can have Witten or Daniels for Reggie Bush, if you like. I’ll throw in a scrub with Daniels. Alright, let’s do it. Witten for Reggie Bush. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/43 "2010-08-07T16:41:56Z")
Just checkig in. All looks good on first appraisal. I haven’t been feeling well lately, still waiting on a transplant, but even while I’m in the hospital I should be able tokeep updated on my new laptop. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/44 "2010-08-07T19:06:34Z")
You used that silly excuse last year! Rub some dirt on it and walk it off. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2010, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/45 "2010-08-07T22:23:13Z")
> [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > > > You can have Witten or Daniels for Reggie Bush, if you like. I’ll throw in a scrub with Daniels. > > Alright, let’s do it. Witten for Reggie Bush. Done. **Varlos** , do we need to do something, or can you put this through? The “trade players” option is greyed out on the league page. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/46 "2010-08-09T01:39:46Z")
**Beef** , what do you want for Byron Scott? ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/47 "2010-08-09T02:43:18Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > > [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > > > Alright, let’s do it. Witten for Reggie Bush. > > Done. **Varlos** , do we need to do something, or can you put this through? The “trade players” option is greyed out on the league page. I would hope so, since technically you guys don’t have any players yet. I’ll keep a list on the Yahoo page of consummated trades, in the Commissioner’s Note, and just swap your players when I enter the keepers prior to the draft. In the meantime, I don’t see this trade as being potentially controversial, so barring an unexpected objection consider Witten-for-Bush official. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/48 "2010-08-09T02:54:14Z")
Oh, and don’t forget we can trade draft picks, as well, so maybe if someone isn’t sure he can compete this year he might consider trading a useful veteran for a 1st or 2nd rounder. Does anyone have an opinion on whether to allow trading picks from next year’s draft? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2010, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/49 "2010-08-09T03:20:12Z")
Strongly against, for several reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/50 "2010-08-13T08:50:31Z")
Just wanted to pop in and say if there are any openings in the league I’d be game. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/51 "2010-08-13T12:43:17Z")
Seems like way too much work. Trading future picks, that is, not letting in **Omni**. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/52 "2010-08-13T22:37:25Z")
You want to talk about a lot of work? Beating me is a lot of work! More than you layabouts and lollygaggers can hope for anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2010, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/53 "2010-08-14T03:03:29Z")
Oh, I think I’d find the energy somehow… exhausted as I am from carrying this heavy-ass trophy all summer. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/54 "2010-08-14T15:37:15Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Oh, I think I’d find the energy somehow… exhausted as I am from carrying this heavy-ass trophy all summer. Make sure you give it a good polish before you give it to me at the end of this year. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/55 "2010-08-17T23:53:21Z")
Is the draft date solid around the end of the month? I just want to get something set so I can plan for it. I would hope we could get the draft keepers set 2 or 3 days before the draft (and necesarily have the final cuts be before this) so that people can look over the list of available players and create their player rankings. It’s hard to make a draft board when you don’t know who’s going to be cut and available to draft. We never resolved the division issue. After the discussion, I’d like to see a system where the divisions are started with the 1-4, 5-8, and 9-12 teams being in their own divisions, but a relegation where the top team in the bottom divisions gets moved up one and the bottom team in the top divisions get moved down one. So we’d have a total realignment this year to give us a starting point, and then tweaks in the future. Like an actual relegation system, there’d be prestige (and difficulty) for competing at the top. > [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > **Beef** , what do you want for Byron Scott? Sorry, I missed this the first time around. I need to look at the rosters to see what the deal is… I’m tempted to hold onto him myself though, seems like he could be a big deal later on. I’ll get back to you. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/56 "2010-08-18T00:38:36Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > We never resolved the division issue. After the discussion, I’d like to see a system where the divisions are started with the 1-4, 5-8, and 9-12 teams being in their own divisions, but a relegation where the top team in the bottom divisions gets moved up one and the bottom team in the top divisions get moved down one. So we’d have a total realignment this year to give us a starting point, and then tweaks in the future. Like an actual relegation system, there’d be prestige (and difficulty) for competing at the top. I thought the consensus was that relegation was out. I thought Ellis’ realignment plan was the current frontrunner followed with doing nothing a close second. ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/57 "2010-08-18T14:43:50Z")
I would prefer not realigning the divisions at all but Ellis’ proposal is my vote if we have to swap things around. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/58 "2010-08-18T17:46:55Z")
If we’re trying to be fair about the whole thing, I say the league champion should automatically be awarded a playoff spot and the other 11 teams should be thrown into a winner-take all division, winner getting to take on the champ in Week 17. You know, like boxing. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2010, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/59 "2010-08-19T06:51:11Z")
hehheh. Hey **VarlosZ** , I just noticed that the draft time is still Sep 5th. It looks like Sun Aug 29 10:00pm EDT is the closest we came to concensus, but I’m worried that it’s already to late to book that spot in yahoo. Can you get it? ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2010, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181/60 "2010-08-21T14:13:49Z")
**VarlosZ** hasn’t seemed to see my post yet, so I just sent him an email. It’s super-late in the game, so how is Sun Sep 5th for everyone? That’s a shitty time for the draft, but if we’re stuck with it, who can’t make it? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-ff-dynasty-league-year-two/545181.md?page=4)