# SDMB Football Mock Draft **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 3, 2003, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359 "2003-06-03T13:51:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2003, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/61 "2003-06-11T18:16:07Z")
Anybody else notice that the offseason player moves have been rescinded? S.Davis still with WAS, D.Boston still with ARI, etc… ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2003, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/62 "2003-06-11T18:24:25Z")
**Munch** , I’d rank those four backs in the order you have them: Edge, Lewis, Fraud, Garner. Moulds #2? Even without Price to balance their passing attack? ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2003, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/63 "2003-06-11T18:27:52Z")
Buffalo has said that they want to run the ball more this year than they did last year. I like Moulds at WR 5 or 6. ---
**Author:** ![mrchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@mrchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrchan)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2003, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/64 "2003-06-11T18:49:13Z")
yeap. more for my man, travis henry. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2003, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/65 "2003-06-11T19:06:43Z")
Especially without Price. And even more especially if they’re going to run the ball more. Moulds doesn’t have to compete, numbers-wise, with Price, and he has the skills to beat just about anyone - so any time they pass, he’s in a prime position to make a big play. Look at Minnesota’s “Randy Ratio” last year. They declare to the league that Moss (another WR w/o a competing #2 across the field from him) is going to get 40% of the offense directed his way. There’s no noticeable improvement, and the defense gears towards Moss, who ends up making fewer big plays as a result. I expect the exact opposite to hold true with Moulds this year. More running means fewer, but more productive, plays from the passing offense. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2003, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/66 "2003-06-11T19:20:15Z")
I don’t think comparing Dwayne Bates to J. Reed is a fair comparison. I think Reed will get his this year. I’m not saying that to make the point that it will detract from Moulds, because I don’t think it will, but switching to a slightly more conservative offense while a decent (IMO) #2 guys steps up – a still very good year for Moulds, but aslight dropoff from last year. We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![mrchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@mrchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrchan)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2003, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/67 "2003-06-11T19:23:34Z")
sorry munch. whether or not the bills declare to the league moulds is their only pass catching threat, everyone else has figured it out. that means safety help is moulds side each and every play. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2003, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/68 "2003-06-11T20:14:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mrchan \* > \*\*yeap. more for my man, travis henry. \*\* I swear to Og he wasn’t there when I was building my pre-draft list for the first and second round. Fie, I say, Fie! I got an close to over the hill, high ankle sprain recovering Martin instead of a young stud like Henry? Dumb, dumb dumb. Hopefully my masterful picks for the third and fourth round will make up for it. Let’s just say I’m learing that picking 12 just blows. Oh, and Munch, I agree with the others that you may have overvalued Moulds. He’s damn good and all, but he’s not “all that” as the kids say. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2003, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/69 "2003-06-11T20:59:21Z")
I don’t think you overvalued him, he was the next WR on my board when you took him, I just think that pipedreams of moulds being the #2 WR are a little lofty. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2003, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/70 "2003-06-11T21:25:44Z")
Thanks, mouth. Keep in mind, I never said that Moulds IS the #2 WR. I qualified that by saying he would be if TO and Moss screw up. But I stratify my players by position, and Moulds is in the top grouping of WRs. ---
**Author:** ![mrchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@mrchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrchan)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2003, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/71 "2003-06-11T21:38:18Z")
i agree moulds is a top WR, and he’s a steal, probably out perform the three WRs drafted ahead of him. but his numbers will be comparable to last years. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2003, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/72 "2003-06-11T22:16:48Z")
I put the “big 3” in a tier by themselves. Then I have Moulds, Burress and Horn as another group, being more or less equal (roughly). After that these three is another dropoff, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![mrchan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/da6949/32.png) [@mrchan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mrchan)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2003, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/73 "2003-06-11T22:23:05Z")
guess shibbs predrafts got taken. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2003, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/74 "2003-06-11T22:30:58Z")
Thats a horrible feeling, unless you’re one of teh guys going before him…hahahahaha ---
**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2003, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/75 "2003-06-11T23:28:53Z")
Yeah funny how he’s drafting 3 but he’s still predrafted for 4. And I’d include Boston in that second-tier group, I think. Maybe. ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/76 "2003-06-12T01:08:22Z")
Ah shaddap! All of youse! ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/77 "2003-06-12T01:51:37Z")
He’s close, WL. I am just not sure – the “downgrade the WR in a new town” philosphy has a whole mountain of stats to back it up. He’s a built like a brick shithouse and he’s incredibly fast for his size…but he’s got a whole bunch of history working against him this year. I’m anxious to see how he does. ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/78 "2003-06-12T02:59:12Z")
Um, guys… :kicks at ground: Hope I dint just F this thing all up. I was trying to draft for Nurse C to move this along…and I din’t realize that Antsports had a limit on the # of times you could attempt login with a bad PW. I was waiting for this page to load, and it was hanging…so I started with cecil01, cecil02, etc… And after a few tries it gave me: “Your Password has been disabled. Please email AntSports AT [yahoo.com](http://yahoo.com).” :-\ Sorry bout that. Cleanup on aisle 6? Munch, with your super admin powers can you do anything? ---
**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/79 "2003-06-12T03:09:30Z")
I emailed ANT, and CC’d you Munch. Sorry again. ---
**Author:** ![waddamaroon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/41988e/32.png) [@waddamaroon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waddamaroon)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2003, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359/80 "2003-06-12T03:39:44Z")
**MB** : His password is “cecil”. It is still valid. Shall we draft Jim Kleinsasser for him? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-mock-draft/179359.md?page=5)