# SDMB Football, Part II

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 5, 2003, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271 "2003-05-05T21:35:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 9

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**Author:** ![waddamaroon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/41988e/32.png) [@waddamaroon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waddamaroon)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/161 "2003-05-23T19:32:56Z")

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\<a href=“[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=160729&perpage=50&highlight=football&pagenumber=4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=160729&perpage=50&highlight=football&pagenumber=4)”\>Say what?\</a\>

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/162 "2003-05-23T19:37:22Z")

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Repaired link:

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> \*Originally posted by waddamaroon \*  
> \*\*[Say What?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=160729&perpage=50&highlight=football&pagenumber=4) \*\*

So, I was considering taking Shockey in the same spot I took Gonzalez, insanity, what do you all think?

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**Author:** ![waddamaroon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/41988e/32.png) [@waddamaroon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waddamaroon)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/163 "2003-05-23T19:41:16Z")

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Thanks **Omni**. My dog ate that page of the instructions.

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/164 "2003-05-23T19:43:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by waddamaroon \*  
> \*\*\<a href=“[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=160729&perpage=50&highlight=football&pagenumber=4](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=160729&perpage=50&highlight=football&pagenumber=4)”\>Say what?\</a\> \*\*

I was actually lying in that thread, I just wanted you guys to think I was cool.  
::makes sure to check off “show sig” checkbox::

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/165 "2003-05-23T19:49:38Z")

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Where’s **mrchan**? My predrafted picks are starting to fall like flies… I want to see who I end up with.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/166 "2003-05-23T19:54:32Z")

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Hmm, **mrchan** ’s predrafted his entire draft up to this point, lets hope he knows he’s on the clock.

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/167 "2003-05-23T19:57:47Z")

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Omni, I think that Shockey needs to go before Gonzo does. He completely outperformed him last year, and there’s nothing to say that he won’t again this year. However, I think 3rd round, ESPECIALLY in a 10 team league is way too early.

But I think with Shockey, you can make all sorts of mistakes and not have to worry about it. You can now go early on the top defenses, push for a solid backup QB and take risks.

I’d also like to point out that I would have taken Shockey instead of Antowain “Oh my ovaries” Smith, and I would have smashed all of you.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/168 "2003-05-23T20:06:52Z")

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How are your ovaries, **Munch**?

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/169 "2003-05-23T20:11:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Munch \*  
> \*\*Omni, I think that Shockey needs to go before Gonzo does. He completely outperformed him last year, and there’s nothing to say that he won’t again this year. \*\*

I don’t know what kind of scoring you’re referring to, but he sure didn’t in my league. For all his hype, people seem to forget that Shockey finished the year with exactly 2 TDs.

Gonzo avg’d 7.44 PPG  
Shockey avg’d 7.00 PPG

And that’s even taking into consderation the game shockey missed. Gonzo outscored him by 14 points for the whole year.  
Don’t get me wrong, I think Shock is in the top 3 TEs this year, but I am far from sold on him as the #1 TE.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/170 "2003-05-23T20:14:12Z")

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You know, I’ve never done a 10 team draft. Maybe that’s why I’m surprised at some of the talent that is still out there in these later rounds. With only 10 teams, I imagine the waiver wire becomes more important than the draft itself.

Most of the guys I have my eye on will probably still be around later, maybe because they’re so well hidden (but more likely because I like the losers that nobody else does.)

I’ll be predrafting most of the way, because I’m away from a puter this weekend. I’ll see you Tuesday. Good Luck all, and enjoy the weekend.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/171 "2003-05-23T20:19:24Z")

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**Munch** , you realize I took him in the 5th round, right?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/172 "2003-05-23T20:19:32Z")

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This predrafting in advance is hard. I won’t know what spots I’ll have to fill. Here’s hoping I don’t end up with 4 qbs and 1 rb

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/173 "2003-05-23T22:13:37Z")

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You know, I think we oughta NMR him…

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/174 "2003-05-23T22:26:11Z")

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NMR = ?

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/175 "2003-05-23T22:47:03Z")

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Inside Diplomacy joke, not to be concerned.

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/176 "2003-05-23T23:06:21Z")

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I called **mrchan** and he told me who to get. Down to **Wilson** now.

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**Author:** ![mouthbreather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a698b9/32.png) [@mouthbreather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mouthbreather)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/177 "2003-05-23T23:14:57Z")

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hijacking,

WL, what happened to your weekly baseball rankings? I liked them.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2003, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/178 "2003-05-23T23:32:28Z")

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**Hamlet** , you’re actually excited about picking Keyshawn? Wow, thats a new one.

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**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/179 "2003-05-24T00:06:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by White Lightning \*  
> I called **mrchan** and he told me who to get. Down to **Wilson** now.

Eh wha hah? Stop poking me, I’m awake.

I took Shockey in the fifth round - but I would have taken Gonzalez ahead of him had he been available. Gonzo had one “bad” year and still was near the top of the TE pack.  
Looking at the average draft positions for ten team leagues, Gonzalez is at 4.09 and Shockey at 5.02, so I guess getting Shockey at the end of the fifth isn’t so much of a reach.

So anyway - what is people’s read on the SF running back position? Is Barlow really going to jump ahead of Hearst?

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**Author:** ![Wilson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@Wilson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wilson)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-football-part-ii/173271/180 "2003-05-24T00:07:21Z")

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Whoops - read that wrong. The average draft ratings has Shockey going above Gonzalez. Interesting…

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