# SDMB FOOTIE FOCUS: November

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 3, 2003, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133 "2003-11-03T11:13:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/21 "2003-11-03T15:10:24Z")

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Beanpole XI without Niall Quinn?

Cats will be marrying dogs next.

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/22 "2003-11-03T15:33:38Z")

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If we’re talking bean-poles and bargains (a la Crouch), how about that all-time corker of Tore Andre Flo at £6.75 (Rangers to Sunderland) - rumour has it, it was that deal that made Leeds sit up and take notice of Peter Reid’s abilities

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/23 "2003-11-03T15:46:19Z")

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How can you all forget Ian Ormondroyd?

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**Author:** ![manwithaplan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@manwithaplan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manwithaplan)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/24 "2003-11-03T17:10:23Z")

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John Barnes could have made the flora-dodgers XI in his later career and Alan Smith (who said Arsenal were boring) has poled a few beans in his day. If you’re looking for a chipper-frequenting full back, Kenny Sansom wasn’t exactly svelte.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/25 "2003-11-03T17:22:18Z")

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How could you neglect Puskas in the pie Eating 11? He may never have played in the Premiership, but a ned kelly of that magnitude definitely deserves recognition.

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**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/26 "2003-11-03T17:27:30Z")

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[quote]  
Hardly Athletic:  
Parks (West Ham circa 1985)  
Ruddock (Swindon) McGrath (Villa) Dicks (W Ham)  
**Barnes (Charlton)** Gascoigne (Burnley) Molby (Liverpool) **Ferenc Puskas (Hungary)** Sammy Lee (Liverpool)  
Mickey Quinn (Coventry) Thomas Brolin (Sweden)

[quote]  
Pay attention, you two!

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/27 "2003-11-05T01:31:10Z")

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Late night stuff but before I forget . . . goodness me, there’s some radical value tonight for the brave hearts among us. How about this:

Arsenal v Dynamo Kiev – Kiev at **8/1** (at the Tote)  
Inter Milan v Lokomotiv Moscow – Moscow **15/2** (Coral)

- that’s some double!  
Perhaps more interestingly:

Olympiakos v Galatasaray – the Turks at 5/2  
Arsenal half time /Arsenal full time – Evens (Ladbrokes)

**Owl** – mate of yours, [Darren The Yid](http://www.darrentheyid.co.uk/)? – I particularly recommend his ‘About Me’ page where his cv resides near the bottom of the page.

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/28 "2003-11-05T10:45:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by London\_Calling \*  
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> **Owl** – mate of yours, [Darren The Yid](http://www.darrentheyid.co.uk/)? – I particularly recommend his ‘About Me’ page where his cv resides near the bottom of the page. \*\*

Um no… He’s a bit too highflying for the likes of me. What is it with these no marks and their websites? There are some truly horrible ones from the far east. Any one with a website should be treated the same as the jesters hats, facepaints etc.

Maybe I’ll make an exception for this chap.

[http://seanthebastard.tripod.com/arsenalareshite/](http://seanthebastard.tripod.com/arsenalareshite/)

Last night I switched between the Man utd pissing all over Rangers (who were shite) and the Fascist cup final between the BNP and the Lombardy League. Its a shame they can’t both lose.

The filth are playing tonight - but it’s fireworks night so I will be indoctrinating my children in anti-catholic prejudices. And buying those glowing bracelets, and toffee apples etc. I might buy them something too. Boom tish!

8/1 is good value for the Kiev game. Its worth a fiver innit?

Could we get the beanpoles to play a short-arse XI I give you a midfield of Bremner, Ardilles, Strachan and Marradonna. Any others?

Then I want a team full of gingers. And baldies. And bubble perms.

And on the spurs manager thing - it looks like it is Morinho. In the summer.

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**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/29 "2003-11-05T11:16:25Z")

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Agreed, 8/1 is ludicrously long given Arse’s woeful CL form. If I can find Kiev+1 goal to win for 4/1 or longer I might punt rather more than a fiver.

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/30 "2003-11-05T12:37:49Z")

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Baldies:

## Borislav Mikhailov (and his unconvincing Bulgarian syrup)

## Danny Mills [William “Worst Loan Signing Ever” Prunier](http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/FootballFicheJoueur7711.html) Rio Ferdinand Roberto Carlos

## Attilio Lombardo [Kevin “Rooster” Russell](http://www.red-passion.com/webbedrobin/0203/squad/kevinRussell.html) Juan Sebastian Veron El Hadji Diouf

Dion Dublin  
Andy Ritchie!

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/31 "2003-11-05T12:50:20Z")

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what about Letchkov for Romania in the 94 world cup?

And for a true Baldies 11 you can’t count the people who are shaved bald by choice, which rules out Dublin, Mills, Ferdinand, Carlos, veron and Diouf.

They have to be people who just can’t accept the inevitable. Bobby Charlton would obviously be the captain.

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/32 "2003-11-05T13:01:52Z")

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Alan Gilzean and Ralph Coates are spectacular combovers.

Danny Mills is bald - the shaved heid is a cover up (that I am no stranger to myself).

What about Fanc Le Bouef? (your spelling may vary).

Syrups have got to be good on a footballer.

Apropos of absolutely nothing, I have read that Buencho Genchev (see above re spelling) runs a cafe in West Kensington called “strikers” and his meat balls are worth a trip. I work in and around W14 and can’t find it anywhere. It has taken on the feeling of a grail quest - Bocho’s Bulgarian Meatballs.

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/33 "2003-11-05T13:03:17Z")

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Picky!

OK:

Borislav Mikhailov  
Frank Leboeuf  
Attilio Lombardo  
Bobby Charlton  
Yordan Letchkov  
Temuri Ketsbaia  
David Speedie  
Andy Ritchie  
Alan Cork

And on the hirsuite side:

Trifon “The Werewolf” Ivanov  
Alexi Lalas  
Brian “Killer” Kilcline  
Socrates  
Mickey Droy

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/34 "2003-11-05T13:07:22Z")

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Wonder no more, **Owlstretchingtime** :

**Strikers**  
Mediterranean restaurant  
6, Charleville Road,  
LONDON, W14 9JL

An old Scottish friend of mine was once obsessed with former Liverpool and Dunfermline winger Istvan Kozma. Her family used to have him over for dinner and help with his language skills. When I met her at uni she still carried his photo in a locket (although there was nothing romatic about their relationship; strictly platonic).

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/35 "2003-11-05T13:39:56Z")

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Thank you CRUSOE. How on earth did you find this out? I have tried everywhere, with no luck.

I know what I am doing tomorrow.

Other Hairies:

Ruben Ayala  
Ricky Villa - in fact ALL south American players  
Joe Kinnear (in his playing days)  
Phil Parkes

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/36 "2003-11-05T13:44:25Z")

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I had a quick look on Google, found a comment posted by his son with the name (spelled wrong, but close enough I could guess what it was supposed to be), then straight to [192.com](http://192.com) for a search.

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/37 "2003-11-05T13:51:08Z")

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This interweb business is not for me. The thing is I have walked past this place several times, without noticing.

I will report back on the meatballs.

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**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/38 "2003-11-05T14:15:09Z")

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**owl** , these threads would die young if it weren’t for your inspired and utterly random non-sequiturs.

Have we any more pubs or restaurants managed _hands-on_ by (such that one could walk in and be served by) ex-pros?

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/39 "2003-11-05T14:25:09Z")

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6, Charleville Road - how _very_ Notting Hill . . .  
Who’s that ex-Launderer or Fulhamite from the '70s who used to have (might still have) the Sports shop at the Hammersmith Broadway end of Fulham Palace Road . . . had a Mediterranean name. Not Lazeredis, but not dissimilar . . . ? Was it someone Mancini ?

**Meaty** – I posted this link in the October thread but here it is again. Handy for comparing all the prices available. Once you get used to it, it’s very handy indeed:

[http://www.oddschecker.com/](http://www.oddschecker.com/)

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2003, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-november/211133/40 "2003-11-05T14:29:44Z")

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I think it might have been Tony Mancini. But, last I looked, his brother was running that particular branch.  
and btw **Mr Meat** , do I need hands like Pat Jennings to finger an ‘F’ chord on me guitar? The \*barre \* is killing me . . .

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