# SDMB FOOTIE FOCUS: September

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [September 1, 2003, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942 "2003-09-01T09:30:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/141 "2003-09-15T11:56:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by owlstretchingtime \*  
> The board have a shortlist of two - curbuishely . . .

I think he could be lured away to Spurs and I’d saw my bollocks off with a rusty bread knife if he would come. Imho, it’s a natural step for him and Tottenham.

As I said pre-season, we have to avoid the West Ham scenario at all costs and history says Christmas is too late to change and avoid the unmentionable.

Fwiw, I don’t think Saturday should increase the pressure on Glenda because the Launderers are, well, . . on a different planet at he moment but he really doesn’t have much longer.

I’m hoping Ledley’s hamstring might be the making of our new (again) back 3 (assuming ‘OJ’ the Saff Efriken gets the nod - one can’t be too sure what Eileen Dury thinks . . . ).

OJ to the rescue !

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/142 "2003-09-15T12:05:07Z")

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They have already sounded out O’Neil, Van Gall and Souness, and been knocked back by all three, despite what you may read in the papers. McLeish has said yes in principle

I like the idea of Curbuishley (His brother managed The Who you know - a very _dodgy geezer_)

The next two games are saints and Man City, who, in a free and just society, we should beat like ginger step-children. Losses to them will lead to the chop.

If that there Spogga chap is here; Oi! your lot have only given us 1500 tickets! poor show! I know that THFCv MCFC is a cat one game but even so. I wanted to see your new stadium (the only one in the top two divisions I’ve never been to). At least its on the box.

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/143 "2003-09-15T12:18:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by owlstretchingtime \*  
> The next two games are saints and Man City, who, in a free and just society, we should beat like ginger step-children. Losses to them will lead to the chop.

Agreed. Don’t know enough about the Jock, though. Apart from the obvious.

I bet all this is causing David Pleat to rub ‘himself’ into a frenzy inside that raincoat.

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2003, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/144 "2003-09-15T12:22:32Z")

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THis is the problem at WHL in a nutshell - David bastard Pleat. Dog in a bloody manger.

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/145 "2003-09-16T14:46:23Z")

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> \*Originally posted by owlstretchingtime \*  
> \*\*Fat chance of that ever happening! (although perhaps if turkey basters were involved…) \*\*

Probably just as well, given the nature of the totally unfounded\* (…our lawyers are watching…)\* allegations against the Arse Manager…

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2003, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/146 "2003-09-16T15:10:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by mascaroni \*  
> _Probably just as well, given the nature of the totally unfounded (…our lawyers are watching…)_ allegations against the Arse Manager… \*\*

I think I can safely say that Arsene Wenger has got a very _cheeky_ smile.

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2003, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/147 "2003-09-17T10:16:05Z")

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Courtesy of Paxo from Newsnight:

"Three viewers have contacted us with news (which first surfaced, I think, on Popbitch) that Iraqi “Freedom fighters” have captured Saddam Hussein near Tikrit. They offered him to the USA for the $25m reward, but Chelsea are reported to have bid $27m. "

- hey, it’s not easy being topical.

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**Author:** ![Tansu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@Tansu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tansu)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2003, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/148 "2003-09-17T11:13:10Z")

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I hope you don’t expect a “ba-dum-tssschhh” for that.

In actual football news, my lot had our first win of the season - a fun-packed 4-0 against the legions of Peter Reid. Our set-pieces were crummy in the first half-hour and I was somewhat concerned, but Nalis and Dickov came through with two brilliant individual goals before half time. We were helped along by the fact that the Leeds defence didn’t appear to have been introduced prior to the match. There seems to have been a reason why they got Roque Junior on a free…

Must keep getting the results to stay at least on the weak side of mid table through the autumn. We have Liverpool on Sat and ManU next week. If we’re awake, we could get a draw against Liverpool.

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**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2003, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/149 "2003-09-17T11:53:00Z")

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> If we’re awake, we could get a draw against Liverpool.

Please don’t break our legs.

Nalis Dickov, said the Inquisitor to the torturer.

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2003, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/150 "2003-09-17T11:55:38Z")

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does anyone watch the games with the Fanzone commentary on?

the Foxes- dirty Leeds game was great.

After the first goal, the Leicster fan was screaming for about two minutes, and then said “1-0! You’re crying into your hovis, son”.

classic.

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2003, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/151 "2003-09-17T12:14:57Z")

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I don’t know if anyone ever heard the NE radio commentry when Malcolm McDonald used to be the “expert” commentator. This was when he drank a bottle of scotch a day.

He is a world class swearer.

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2003, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/152 "2003-09-17T15:42:18Z")

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I’m sure I’m the only person in Britain who remembers Terry Venables aiming for the World Sports Commentator Swearing award.

Remember Manchester United bearing Bayern Munich in injury time a few years back? Matthaus in tears and all that malarkey?

I’m absolutely convinced that the camera went briefly back to the studio, where the pundits were all celebrating, and when asked his opinion on the result Venables gleefully said, “Lucky cunts!”.

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**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2003, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/153 "2003-09-17T16:13:29Z")

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[No Fecking Seedings](http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/3113596.stm).

Excellent. I don’t know which dickstretcher thought up the idea in the first place.

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2003, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/154 "2003-09-17T16:57:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by owlstretchingtime \*  
> \*\*I think I can safely say that Arsene Wenger has got a very _cheeky_ smile. \*\*

Given The Arse’s financial difficulties, I reckon he’s been grooming a few of the youth team for the day when they get their Big Arse Break…  
Not as bad as the old days though; at least when they get in the box, they won’t have Seaman in their face…

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**Author:** ![Ivar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ivar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ivar)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2003, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/155 "2003-09-17T18:03:04Z")

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Wow, this thread is heavy with Sp\*rs fans. ptoooie!

Amazing to read all you have to say about Arsenal seeing as you’ve fuck-all recently.

Arsenal a bunch of cheats? Please…

I kow you’re biased and tend to see Arsenal through shite-tinted glasses, but let’s face it, they play hard, they get away with some stuff, but definitely not any more the ManUre. They were mid-table on the discipline charts last year.

And don’t go gloating if Arsenal doesn’t play well today against Inter. You have to QUALIFY for the Champion’s League first, then you can gloat.

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2003, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/156 "2003-09-17T18:12:05Z")

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I thought Minneapolis was Man U territory…

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**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2003, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/157 "2003-09-17T18:17:37Z")

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Yup I’d go along with that, **Ivar** even though I dislike Arse only slightly less than Manure.

Rottenham have had more promised comebacks than a Beatles get together, and still haven’t turned up the goods.

We’ll possibly get a relegation battle, which at least has more passion than ‘boring housing estate, middle of the road, average, as interesting as unflavoured blancmange’ mid table nothingness.

If a team wins or loses mid table and no one notices, did it happen ? Who cares?

We are going nowhere (only if we are fortunate) and still folk hate us for events 30 years ago, maybe you should move on to modern times, and bring your team with you, at least hate us for something slightly more recent.

Of course, no other team at all ever cheated even just a tiny bit during the '70’s did they ?  
Doesn’t make Leeds any more right, but put their gamesmanship into context, I remember a certain Chelsea defender who was absolutely notorious (Collins ?) there were plenty of others.

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2003, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/158 "2003-09-17T18:51:23Z")

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Like I’ve said before, supporting spurs is character forming… the triumph of hope over experience.

Leeds, eh? Champions league semis a couple of years ago and now…

May You Live In Interesting Times.

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**Author:** ![Ivar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ivar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ivar)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2003, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/159 "2003-09-17T19:20:43Z")

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Hell, most of the US is ManUre territory. But I do know several Arsenal fans here in town, and most of the ManUre fans at the pub are new fans who are just glory hunters, with no sense of the history of the game, guys who probably can’t name more than five other clubs currently in the Prem. The same guys who all just bought Real shirts…

I’m not claiming to have been a fan my whole life, but I followed DB10 to Arsenal from Inter back in 1995 and have been hooked ever since. And I know the history of my club, I’ve travelled to London just to go to Highbury.

Frankly, I could give a rat’s ass about the rivalry with Tottenham. I even had a guy yell at me from his car here in Minneapolis, while I was wearing my Arsenal kit. He yelled, in his British accent, “Arsenal’s the worst team in London!” I yelled back, “At least I’m not a Spurs fan!” He seemed quite surprised at my reply, given my American accent.

When it comes right down to it, I like them because they have a great international make-up of players, they play beautiful footie, and because Dennis Bergkamp is god.

By the way, Arsenal is getting their asses handed to them by Inter. It’s 3-0 to Inter at 41’. Obviously we are still having problems competing in Europe. Another CL campaign off to a shitty start.

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**Author:** ![mascaroni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@mascaroni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mascaroni)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2003, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-footie-focus-september/198942/160 "2003-09-17T20:23:27Z")

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Fair play Ivar…  
It’s good to hear from an American who’s into ‘The Beautiful Game’.

…and one who knows the term ‘Glory Hunter’…

P.S. Dennis Bergkamp was a Spurs fan from an early age… but we couldn’t afford him.

I’m off to sing ‘The Internazionale’…

BTW, next time you’re at ‘The Library’, it’s ‘Shhh’, not ‘Ssss’…

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