# \*\* SDMB live coverage thread, 2nd POTUS debate, 10/09/2016 \*\*

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 5, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737 "2016-10-05T22:55:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/361 "2016-10-10T01:50:55Z")

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Hillary points out Trump is being helped by Putin and the hacking. She wants tax returns released to see the ties with Putin.

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/362 "2016-10-10T01:52:14Z")

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I know nothing about Russia.

First time he kind of told the truth tonight.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/363 "2016-10-10T01:52:16Z")

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Trump just said we didn’t know it was the Russians. I guess he missed the news.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/364 "2016-10-10T01:52:21Z")

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“I know nothing about Russia”. Well, that’s reassuring.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/365 "2016-10-10T01:52:31Z")

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> [@Reyemile](#):
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> Awkward transition from “public and private” to Russia, I’m sure she could have brought it up more naturally at a different point.

Like Trump, if the question is too hard, she has to change the subject.

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**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/366 "2016-10-10T01:52:54Z")

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> [@Reyemile](#):
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> Awkward transition from “public and private” to Russia, I’m sure she could have brought it up more naturally at a different point.

I agree. I didn’t like how Hillary made that point. It was a dodge, not as crazy as Trump’s various blather, but she’s better than that.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/367 "2016-10-10T01:52:54Z")

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Her Russia remarks were a trap, weren’t they? He’s making word salad again.

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**Author:** ![aag3981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@aag3981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aag3981)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/368 "2016-10-10T01:53:00Z")

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“Let me tell you, the Russians aren’t trying to get me elected.”

Hillary should have just dropped the mike right then…

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/369 "2016-10-10T01:53:32Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> “I know nothing about Russia”. Well, that’s reassuring.

He needs to buy Sarah Palin’s house so he can watch Russia.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/370 "2016-10-10T01:53:57Z")

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Trump rallying.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/371 "2016-10-10T01:54:12Z")

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Trump went for the bait and missed the chance to go after her on the wiki leaks.

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**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/372 "2016-10-10T01:54:27Z")

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Hillary didn’t change the tax code in a long-term gambit to be able to use the loopholes she intentionally left as a weapon against Trump? Good lord he’s nuts.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/373 "2016-10-10T01:54:29Z")

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Tax questions do wealthy pay fair share of taxes. Will you fix that.

Trump…Well, the senator didn’t change the tax code. She used the money for negative ads on Donald Trump. ???

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/374 "2016-10-10T01:54:40Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Trump rallying.

It’s spelled flailing.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/375 "2016-10-10T01:54:47Z")

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He can’t answer without attacking her. He can’t stay on topic. He just has to veer into attacks.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/376 "2016-10-10T01:54:49Z")

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“Bigly”

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/377 "2016-10-10T01:54:57Z")

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He’s right on the tax code. Democrats love to raise taxes, but also love loopholes to protect their own incomes and those of their contributors. Then they get angry when Republicans take those tax deductions.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/378 "2016-10-10T01:54:58Z")

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“Big league” first sighting.

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/379 "2016-10-10T01:55:08Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Like Trump, if the question is too hard, she has to change the subject.

Agreed. She could have used Trump’s own words against him and compare a public/private distinction to keeping strategy secret and not revealing all your plans and arguments on the table ahead of time, but she went down a very confusing road. Especially if you haven’t seen the movie or know that the 13th amendment was the one to abolish slavery.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/380 "2016-10-10T01:55:18Z")

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No the subject got switched over to taxes.

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