# \*\* SDMB live coverage thread, 2nd POTUS debate, 10/09/2016 \*\*

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 5, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737 "2016-10-05T22:55:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![aag3981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@aag3981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aag3981)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/381 "2016-10-10T01:55:21Z")

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Trump worth 3.7 billion (maybe). Warren worth 65 billion… So yeah, Warren would get more deductions. Ah Duh…

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**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/382 "2016-10-10T01:55:33Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> He can’t answer without attacking her. He can’t stay on topic. He just has to veer into attacks.

And sniffing, don’t forget the sniffing. That’s a big part of the Trump debate portfolio.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/383 "2016-10-10T01:56:17Z")

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SNIFF

sniff

SNIFFFFFFF

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/384 "2016-10-10T01:56:18Z")

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Hillary, Donald and his alternative reality. Hasn’t paid income tax in 20 years. HE wants to give the wealthy tax cuts, he’ll take care of Donald.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/385 "2016-10-10T01:56:21Z")

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I am absolutely confident that I can debate better than Trump. Every time he makes a good point he follows it up with sloppy language and reasoning. CAn’t I just put on the wig and maybe people would be fooled into thinking I’m Trump?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/386 "2016-10-10T01:56:23Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> He can’t answer without attacking her. He can’t stay on topic. He just has to veer into attacks.

Well, the attacks _are_ his topic. I’m actually surprised he hasn’t called her ‘crooked Hillary’ to her face yet.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/387 "2016-10-10T01:57:10Z")

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Trump missed a (small) chance on the leaks and lost it because he can’t let attacks go.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/388 "2016-10-10T01:57:35Z")

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Trump can’t sit still. He’s like a 7 year old at recess.

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/389 "2016-10-10T01:57:40Z")

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I’d once again like to remind the SDMB posting audience that trolls - even the blissfully-unaware ones - should not be responded to or engaged in any way, as we need to keep things moving along.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/390 "2016-10-10T01:57:56Z")

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> [@aag3981](#):
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> Why is it so important for it to be Islamic Radical Terrorism?

If you say it three times, Mike Pence shows up to spin straw into gold.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/391 "2016-10-10T01:57:59Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I am absolutely confident that I can debate better than Trump. Every time he makes a good point he follows it up with sloppy language and reasoning. CAn’t I just put on the wig and maybe people would be fooled into thinking I’m Trump?

I don’t know. How do you pronounce ‘big league’?

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**Author:** ![aag3981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@aag3981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aag3981)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/392 "2016-10-10T01:58:00Z")

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[Shortly after becoming the first female senator in New York history, Clinton voted against the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001, or as the bill has become known: the Bush tax cuts.](http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonynitti/2015/04/13/what-hillary-clintons-voting-record-reveals-about-her-tax-plan/#19df7521962d)

So yeah, she did what she could.

Now I’ll just sit back and listen to her spout numbers and specifics and such.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/393 "2016-10-10T01:58:12Z")

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So far, this is not the (Trump) disaster I was expecting.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/394 "2016-10-10T01:58:18Z")

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She just ruled out tax increases for those making under $250K.

Probably a “public” position, but one she has to stick too. That’s the third rail of politics these days. Can’t even raise taxes on the rich anymore, just the ultra rich. That means small government, which is okay by me.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/395 "2016-10-10T01:58:19Z")

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Great answer on taxes from Clinton.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/396 "2016-10-10T01:59:38Z")

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Trump said he understands the tax code. His attorney just said he had no interest in it or understanding it (in defense of the no tax claim)

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/397 "2016-10-10T01:59:45Z")

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Wait, Hillary is personally responsible for the tax code?

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**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/398 "2016-10-10T02:00:02Z")

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What does Trump think Clinton could do? The she could magically fix the tax code all on her lonesome?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/399 "2016-10-10T02:00:05Z")

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Trump is right about this and I wish more truly populist politicians would bring this up: Even rich Democratic donors aren’t looking for progressive economic policy. They want their tax breaks and they will get them.

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/400 "2016-10-10T02:00:33Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> The moderators are just asking brutal questions. Both of them deserve it.

Yet she’s the only one attempting to answer them. He’s just _DEFLECT_ _DEFLECT_ _DEFLECT_

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