# \*\* SDMB live coverage thread, 2nd POTUS debate, 10/09/2016 \*\*

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 5, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737 "2016-10-05T22:55:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/441 "2016-10-10T02:09:37Z")

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I don’t even understand what his point on ISIS was. Russia and Iran (??) are beating ISIS, so we should be hostile to them because… … ISIS is good… or…?

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**Author:** ![aag3981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@aag3981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aag3981)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/442 "2016-10-10T02:09:53Z")

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Trump: “Ok, I’ll admit she wasn’t there, but she probably consulted in some way.”

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**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/443 "2016-10-10T02:09:59Z")

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> [@BeepKillBeep](#):
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> “Let me repeat the question” Oh man. I’m dyin’.

I fucking loved that! And she reminded him what Pence said! Priceless!

And he’s disagreeing! It’s delightful!

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/444 "2016-10-10T02:09:59Z")

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“I didn’t speak to my running mate about this (Syria).” Beautiful.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/445 "2016-10-10T02:10:02Z")

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> [@JohnGalt](#):
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> Listening on radio (MSNBC on Sirius XM) Trump didn’t sound terrible except for the sniffing and wanting to talk over Hillary. For her part, she’s talking policy points and it’s hard to tell if either one of them is connecting with the audience. Love the moderators today.
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> Now watching it on TV it’s looking a boring presidential debate with no clear winner this time, but there’s still time to go.

Clinton is kicking his ass worse than in the first debate.

Again, that doesn’t mean punches haven’t landed on her, but it’s spotty and she’s landing huge haymakers on him. He’s unfit.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/446 "2016-10-10T02:10:11Z")

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Trump hasn’t spoken to Pence and he disagrees with him!

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/447 "2016-10-10T02:10:34Z")

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Clearly Trump has no clue about foreign policy. Make a sneak attack?

He’s arguing with the moderator, audience laughs.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/448 "2016-10-10T02:11:06Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Syria is no longer Syria, Syria is Russia now.

Syria has been a Russian client since before most of us were born.

And now Trump is just being ignorant on Mosul.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/449 "2016-10-10T02:11:07Z")

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Now the moderators are arguing with him?

I have lost this drinking game.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/450 "2016-10-10T02:11:12Z")

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Has he actually answered a question yet?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/451 "2016-10-10T02:11:24Z")

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Ah, the 200 generals and admirals (whose names we don’t know yet) again.

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**Author:** ![BeepKillBeep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9e8a1a/32.png) [@BeepKillBeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BeepKillBeep)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/452 "2016-10-10T02:11:25Z")

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Wow, Martha is really going after Trump on this.

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**Author:** ![aag3981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@aag3981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aag3981)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/453 "2016-10-10T02:11:31Z")

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Trump just called our country stupid…

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/454 "2016-10-10T02:11:31Z")

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From the other debate thread:

> [@Second POTUS Debate thread Sing-along and discussion](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/second-potus-debate-thread-sing-along-and-discussion/768115/213):
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> BREAKING:
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> Mike Pence has asked to be allowed to leave the ticket:
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> [x.com](https://twitter.com/funder/status/785131078268948480)

Holy shit. He located his gonads. Bravo.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/455 "2016-10-10T02:12:01Z")

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“Tell me what your strategy is!”

Yeah. Right.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/456 "2016-10-10T02:12:24Z")

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The moderator should not be debating Trump. She crossed the line there. Let Clinton explain that. Not your job, Martha. You’re not running for President.

Oh, and Presidential candidates and their running mates SHOULD disagree. Why? Because they do!

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**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/457 "2016-10-10T02:12:24Z")

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“There are sometimes reasons that the military does that.” Awesome. Trump is coming off as the buffoon he is.

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/458 "2016-10-10T02:12:38Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Clearly Trump has no clue about foreign policy. Make a sneak attack?
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> He’s arguing with the moderator, audience laughs.

Against the second largest city in Iraq and the largest city by far that Daesh currently occupies. Who have spent more than two years fortifying and planning to use civilians there as human shields to complicate any offensive into the city.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/459 "2016-10-10T02:12:50Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I’m really uncomfortable with Trump basically adopting the far left position on arming rebels. Reagan is rolling in his grave.

Are you forgetting the Iran–Contra affair? Selling arms to Iran to fund rebels in Nicaragua?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/460 "2016-10-10T02:13:24Z")

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Trump is wandering around the stage with his back to the camera. I’m not totally sold on ‘optics’, but hey, bad optics.

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