# \*\* SDMB live coverage thread, 2nd POTUS debate, 10/09/2016 \*\*

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 5, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737 "2016-10-05T22:55:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/501 "2016-10-10T02:24:07Z")

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Hillary is clearly the Presidential one. Donald just didn’t do it.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/502 "2016-10-10T02:24:09Z")

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I think Hillary has missed a shot by not mentioning the number of Republicans who have disavowed Trump.

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**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/503 "2016-10-10T02:24:17Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Trump’s body language is intimidating. He could win Bouncer In Chief. This will not go over big with women.

I wonder if the camera man is getting tired, having to do all that planning

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/504 "2016-10-10T02:25:14Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> You mean in this debate, or ever?

Touché. 😉

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/505 "2016-10-10T02:25:15Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> Reagan legally armed a lot of rebels. We’re talking about the legally armed ones, such as the ones in Afghanistan.

The Mujahideen? That worked out well. :rolleyes:

Sorry for the hijack. Boring debate.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/506 "2016-10-10T02:25:27Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> You are joking, aren’t you?

Nope. I think he’d held his own. No, he doesn’t know policy. His voters don’t care. He’s projecting a strong image, and that’s what they like. He’s also not stepping all over himself as in the last debate.

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**Author:** ![Hermione](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/cdc98d/32.png) [@Hermione](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermione)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/507 "2016-10-10T02:25:33Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I think Hillary has missed a shot by not mentioning the number of Republicans who have disavowed Trump.

Oh, she did, fairly early. She said something about how Trump was focusing on such-and-such to draw attention away from all the Republicans leaving him.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/508 "2016-10-10T02:25:46Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Is 250k rich nowadays?

Top 1.5%. Just depends on what your definition of rich is, I suppose.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/509 "2016-10-10T02:25:55Z")

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Hillary wants a more liberal Supreme Court. That makes me want to vote for Trump.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/510 "2016-10-10T02:25:58Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Enforcing a no fly zone again the Russians is nonsensical.

So is an embargo of Cuba. If it’s important enough you do brinksmanship and see who blinks. Is Syria that important? Probably not, but if Clinton makes the play I’ll back her.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/511 "2016-10-10T02:26:36Z")

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“Secretary Clinton, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has said that a no-fly zone in Syria would “require” a war with Russia and Syria. Is this the goal of your policy?”

Just kidding this will never be asked.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/512 "2016-10-10T02:26:44Z")

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A Trump Gallop. Like a Gish Gallop but with less facts.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/513 "2016-10-10T02:26:49Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Hillary wants a more liberal Supreme Court. That makes me want to vote for Trump.

I’m shocked.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/514 "2016-10-10T02:26:52Z")

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Man I hate how every time someone brings up black people Trump is all “inner city! Violence! Poor!” For fucks sake dude black Americans are more than 90s rap videos.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/515 "2016-10-10T02:27:04Z")

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> [@UltraVires](#):
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> Hillary wants a more liberal Supreme Court. That makes me want to vote for Trump.

I don’t like it either but there’s only one legitimate way to prevent that: win elections with good candidates.

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**Author:** ![Reyemile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@Reyemile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reyemile)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/516 "2016-10-10T02:27:08Z")

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I hate this answer, even though it’s probably the right one. I’d much rather see an answer about general legal philosophy, internal consistency, and humanity. Unfortunately, that doesn’t sell and so unfortunately you have to just pander to a bunch of single-issue voters.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/517 "2016-10-10T02:27:10Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> Nope. I think he’d held his own. No, he doesn’t know policy. His voters don’t care. He’s projecting a strong image, and that’s what they like. He’s also not stepping all over himself as in the last debate.

It won’t swing the polls for him. People watch debates, they don’t listen to them. Trump looked upset, nervous and confused as he wandered around. Hillary was composed.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/518 "2016-10-10T02:27:27Z")

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In the mold of Scalia? That’s good enough for me.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/519 "2016-10-10T02:27:40Z")

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I wouldn’t put attribute much credibility to that tweet about Pence.

> **[Pence is sticking with Trump -- but closely watching debate](https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2016/10/09/pence-sticking-trump----but-closely-watching-debate/91831456/)**
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> Mike Pence is sticking with Donald Trump in public, but in private he is holding his options open, according to sources close to him.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/520 "2016-10-10T02:28:12Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> So is an embargo of Cuba. If it’s important enough you do brinksmanship and see who blinks. Is Syria that important? Probably not, but if Clinton makes the play I’ll back her.

You would back the instigator of a war with a nuclear power? Oh that’s, you’re a Republican.

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