# \*\* SDMB live coverage thread, 2nd POTUS debate, 10/09/2016 \*\* **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [October 5, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737 "2016-10-05T22:55:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/861 "2016-10-12T16:59:14Z")
When Trump tweeted that he had won every poll after his second debate, what the hell could he have been referring to? [according to this analysis of the various polls](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/12/trumps-ridiculous-claim-that-he-won-every-poll-on-the-second-presidential-debate/?hpid=hp_special-topic-chain_fact-checker-10a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory) he didn’t win _any_ of the legitimate polls that were conducted…but he did win some junk “Vote as often as you want from wherever you want-even if you aren’t eligible to vote in the U.S.!” polls. I ask you Trump supporters how you can justify outright lies like this from your candidate? ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/862 "2016-10-12T17:04:56Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > When Trump tweeted that he had won every poll after his second debate, what the hell could he have been referring to? [according to this analysis of the various polls](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/12/trumps-ridiculous-claim-that-he-won-every-poll-on-the-second-presidential-debate/?hpid=hp_special-topic-chain_fact-checker-10a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory) he didn’t win _any_ of the legitimate polls that were conducted…but he did win some junk “Vote as often as you want from wherever you want-even if you aren’t eligible to vote in the U.S.!” polls. > I ask you Trump supporters how you can justify outright lies like this from your candidate? Of all the outright lies of his campaign, even those said withing +/- 30 minutes of that statement, lying about himself in the polls is nowhere near the worst. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/863 "2016-10-12T17:15:26Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > When will _any_ US administration “git tuff” with Saudi Arabia? As much as they deserve it, they’ve got oil. When American cars no longer run on gasoline, we’ll probably work up the backbone to tell Saudi Arabia to get bent. Or pound sand. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/864 "2016-10-12T17:16:04Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Of all the outright lies of his campaign, even those said withing +/- 30 minutes of that statement, lying about himself in the polls is nowhere near the worst. If I try to talk about _all_ the lies. the only response will be a deflection to the “S_I_N_S OF H_I_L_L_A_R\*Y”. I just want to see how this one absolutely provable lie of his can be explained away. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/865 "2016-10-12T17:35:58Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > If I try to talk about _all_ the lies. the only response will be a deflection to the “S_I_N_S OF H_I_L_L_A_R\*Y”. I just want to see how this one absolutely provable lie of his can be explained away. I had someone tell me on a closed facebook page (of supposedly very clever people), that those “other polls” were all in the tank for Hillary, and the only accurate polls were ones that let anyone vote online. He (a supposedly very intelligent person) had no grasp of statistics, polling methodology, or even basic math as far as I could tell. He was right, and I was wrong, and that was that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737.md?page=43)