# \*\* SDMB live coverage thread, 2nd POTUS debate, 10/09/2016 \*\*

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 5, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737 "2016-10-05T22:55:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/141 "2016-10-10T00:54:23Z")

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Is one of the blonde women sitting with the Trump family Ivanka? It’s hard to tell.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/142 "2016-10-10T00:57:06Z")

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Trump’s family didn’t look too happy. I’m betting they would like to crawl under the seat from embarrassment.

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**Author:** ![MacCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maccat/32/216_2.png) [@MacCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacCat)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/143 "2016-10-10T00:57:11Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Is one of the blonde women sitting with the Trump family Ivanka? It’s hard to tell.

Ivanka “My father is not a groper” Trump?

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/144 "2016-10-10T00:59:14Z")

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Yes, Ivanka showed up.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/145 "2016-10-10T00:59:24Z")

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I thought it was interesting that Chelsea didn’t come out with Bill Clinton. I don’t think she wanted to shake hands with any of the Trumpkins. I’d guess the Ivanka/Chelsea friendship is on shaky ground. (Understatement intentional.)

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/146 "2016-10-10T01:00:09Z")

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Time to send those \< 17 out of the room.

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**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/147 "2016-10-10T01:01:23Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Trump’s family didn’t look too happy. I’m betting they would like to crawl under the seat from embarrassment.

I don’t think so. They’ve been supporting and defending this monster for years. They have no shame.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/148 "2016-10-10T01:01:49Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> I thought it was interesting that Chelsea didn’t come out with Bill Clinton. I don’t think she wanted to shake hands with any of the Trumpkins. I’d guess the Ivanka/Chelsea friendship is on shaky ground. (Understatement intentional.)

Chelsea is there.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/149 "2016-10-10T01:02:48Z")

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Never mind. She’s sitting with Melania & her brothers. Both women have a kind of sad, vacant look in their eyes. Ivanka’s husband is missing in action.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/150 "2016-10-10T01:03:02Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I agree–and as I say there, I don’t mind if the mods decide to close it. But I and many others would prefer a debate thread that doesn’t start the debate until the third page. I’d prefer this thread stay as its original purpose, viz., a thread to speculate about what will happen during the debate in the days leading up to it, and have a new thread (the one I started or another, I have no ownership) for the debate itself.
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> If it works, great, and if not, that’s fine too.

I know what your intention was, but it has not worked out like that. Even if you’re not, I’m annoyed that there are two discussions going on in two different threads. Grrr.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/151 "2016-10-10T01:03:06Z")

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Paula Jones thinks this helps Trump? That’s crazy.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/152 "2016-10-10T01:04:57Z")

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What the fuck did he just say! OMG! He didn’t really say that!

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/153 "2016-10-10T01:05:26Z")

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Trump looks really tired. Hillary is peppy and smart looking. - no hand shake.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/154 "2016-10-10T01:05:31Z")

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No handshake!

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/155 "2016-10-10T01:05:34Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Chelsea is there.

I know she’s there, but she didn’t come out with Bill. She and her husband joined Bill after the hand-shaking portion of the proceedings.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/156 "2016-10-10T01:05:34Z")

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I wouldn’t blame Clinton at all if she refused to shake Trump’s hand.

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/157 "2016-10-10T01:06:00Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I wouldn’t blame Clinton at all if she refused to shake Trump’s hand.

and you are correct.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/158 "2016-10-10T01:06:09Z")

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No handshake!!!

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/159 "2016-10-10T01:06:24Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> What the fuck did he just say! OMG! He didn’t really say that!

Huh?

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-thread-2nd-potus-debate-10-09-2016/767737/160 "2016-10-10T01:06:28Z")

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Modeling appropriate behavior question. Go Hillary

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