# \*\*\* SDMB Live coverage, VP Debate.  10/04/2016 \*\*\*

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 1, 2016, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354 "2016-10-01T13:33:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/221 "2016-10-05T03:28:51Z")

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Like I said before, Pence had the “deep voice advantage.” His horseshit sounded reasonable, sometimes.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/222 "2016-10-05T03:32:11Z")

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> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#):
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> Like I said before, Pence had the “deep voice advantage.” His horseshit sounded reasonable, sometimes.

Yes, he’s a better speaker.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/223 "2016-10-05T03:34:37Z")

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Anyone besides me think that Mike Pence looks like [Cotton Hill?](https://attwiw.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/cnv9x3rueaap1f3.jpg?w=533&h=533)

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**Author:** ![Sterling\_Archer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sterling\_Archer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterling_Archer)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/224 "2016-10-05T03:38:59Z")

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Ok where’s the meme of the VP candidates sitting at the table, but Kaine is wearing a sombrero and Pence is saying the line. Someone get on that!

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/225 "2016-10-05T03:44:46Z")

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I finally figured out who Kaine reminds me of: [Mr. Haney.](https://youtu.be/P4jtxextcc8?t=30s)

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/226 "2016-10-05T03:48:18Z")

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That moderator is responsible for Longwood.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/227 "2016-10-05T04:00:15Z")

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> [@leftfield6](#):
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> [www.thatmexicanthing.com](http://www.thatmexicanthing.com) now takes you to Hillary’s website. That’s awesome.

Sweeeeet.

Here’s the hashtag -

#ThatMexicanThing

[https://twitter.com/hashtag/ThatMexicanThing?src=hash](https://twitter.com/hashtag/ThatMexicanThing?src=hash)

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/228 "2016-10-05T04:15:41Z")

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Well, I’m off to bed.

If anyone’s going to whip out that Mexican Thang, they better do it soon.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/229 "2016-10-05T04:37:34Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Sweeeeet.
> 
> Here’s the hashtag -
> 
> #ThatMexicanThing
> 
> [x.com](https://twitter.com/hashtag/ThatMexicanThing?src=hash)

Some gold:

> [@Mexican Judge @laloalcaraz](#):
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> #ThatMexicanThing is when we vote.

> [@Pili Tobar @pilitobar87](#):
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> #ThatMexicanThing where undocumented immigrants pay more taxes than @realDonaldTrump does. #VPDebate

> [@Clarissa Martinez @CMartinezDC](#):
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> #ThatMexicanThing is something most who’ve had to work hard for a dream can relate to. Maybe those with billionaire daddies not so much.

And finally:

> [@tryanmax @tryanmax](#):
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> Lesson to GOP candidates: don’t say anything hashtag-able. #ThatMexicanThing

I love the modern Internet.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/230 "2016-10-05T04:55:05Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> Great work. Someone grabbed it just now:
> 
> Domain Name: [THATMEXICANTHING.COM](http://THATMEXICANTHING.COM)  
> Registrar: [GODADDY.COM](http://GODADDY.COM), LLC  
> Updated Date: 05-oct-2016  
> Creation Date: 05-oct-2016  
> Expiration Date: 05-oct-2017
> 
> \>\>\> Last update of whois database: Wed, 05 Oct 2016 02:45:45 GMT \<\<\<

WHOIS data is all public information, and this is on news sites. I’m not putting anything new out there:

```auto

Registrant Name: Danilo Alfaro
Registrant Organization: 
Registrant Street: [OK, mods, I'll redact this, phone number, and email.]
Registrant City: Portland
Registrant State/Province: Oregon
Registrant Postal Code: 97213
Registrant Country: US

```

[His Twitter has mentions of it.](https://twitter.com/daniloalfaro?lang=en)

[FastCompany has info as well](https://news.fastcompany.com/give-hillary-clintons-digital-team-a-raise-that-mexican-thing-is-now-a-brand-asset-4021144):

> [@](#):
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> During tonight’s vice presidential debate, Hillary Clinton’s running mate, Tim Kaine, kept bringing up Donald Trump’s past derogatory statements about Mexicans. During one particular tête-à-tête, Trump’s VP choice, Mike Pence, retorted “you whipped out that Mexican thing again.”
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> Well, someone with quick fingers made [ThatMexicanThing.com](http://ThatMexicanThing.com) into a web domain, and—what do you know?—it redirects to the Clinton campaign’s website.
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> According to ICANN, the domain is owned by Danilo Alfaro, a Portland-based writer whose Twitter bio includes the hashtag #ImWithHer.

Side note: Back in the Dotcom Bust days, there was a website called FuckedCompany which parodied the overblown hype on FastCompany and focused on doomed Dotcoms. That name has a certain desperate relevance today.

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/231 "2016-10-05T04:58:12Z")

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[WIRED actually got an interview.](https://www.wired.com/2016/10/that-mexican-thing-website-stunt/) In other news, WIRED still exists:

> [@](#):
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> So we emailed Mr. Alfaro to see if he had grabbed the domain on behalf of the campaign. “Nope,” he responded. “I registered the domain and pointed it at [hillaryclinton.com](http://hillaryclinton.com) on my own, without any contact with the campaign beforehand.” One of Clinton’s “digital people,” he added, had reached out to thank him for his quick thinking, though.

The campaign should send him, at the very least, a nice gift basket.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/232 "2016-10-05T05:05:13Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> Some gold:

My favorite:

@jeffjarvis: “I’m going to quit my job, buy a taco truck, and call it Whip Out That Mexican Thing.”

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/233 "2016-10-05T05:07:31Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> My favorite:
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> @jeffjarvis: “I’m going to quit my job, buy a taco truck, and call it Whip Out That Mexican Thing.”

I relish the idea that Pence gave a huge gift to the porn industry.

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**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/234 "2016-10-05T05:21:58Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> did mr pence just open up foundation war.??! Oh good grief, that is not smart. mr trump has asked for foreign donations to his campaign.

These were the only few minutes I caught and Pence just flat out fucking lied.  
He’s not a stupid man. Even if his followers don’t read, he does. He knows full well that Trump’s foundation is deeply corrupt. And he knows that the Clinton foundation has an excellent rating. And he lied about both of them. It wasn’t an evasion or a different interpretation or point of view. He distinctly said something that he knows to be untrue.

He lied about _charity_. He should be deeply ashamed of saying anything about his “faith” again, ever.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/235 "2016-10-05T05:34:47Z")

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[CNN/ORC instant poll.](http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/10/05/vp.poll.pdf.pdf)

Pence 48%  
Kaine 42%

Slight edge to Pence, but if you dig down into that pdf you can find a number of areas in which Kaine beat Pence.

I don’t see how this could move the needles much.

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**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/236 "2016-10-05T06:16:31Z")

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> [@AnalogSignal](#):
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> My favorite:
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> @jeffjarvis: “I’m going to quit my job, buy a taco truck, and call it Whip Out That Mexican Thing.”

He needs to franchise it so we have them on every corner.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/237 "2016-10-05T07:57:52Z")

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According to reporting by NR, Trump is very unhappy with Pence:

> **[The Corner | National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/)**

Apparently for not defending him well enough, but also because he upstaged Trump by doing better!

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/238 "2016-10-05T08:00:36Z")

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It does seem that Kaine was trying to help Clinton, and succeeded, whereas Pence was trying to help Pence, and also succeeded.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/239 "2016-10-05T08:03:41Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> According to reporting by NR, Trump is very unhappy with Pence:
> 
> [The Corner | National Review](http://www.nationalreview.com/corner)
> 
> Apparently for not defending him well enough, but also because he upstaged Trump by doing better!

There are a number of short columns/articles/op-ed pieces at that link and none of them say what you said they’d say.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2016, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-live-coverage-vp-debate-10-04-2016/767354/240 "2016-10-05T09:12:02Z")

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Look at the tweets at the top.

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