# Sdmb mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [October 30, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198 "2008-10-30T02:29:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kat)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/381 "2008-11-05T02:55:22Z")

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> [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](#):
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> If you are assuming the two outed masons are telling the truth why do you think they will make it to endgame? They are going to be picked off. If we do have a doc he has to play some serious WIFOM games and cannot protect any other power roles if they need to come forward.
> 
> I’m not advocating for a full chain reveal today, I’m just saying it can’t last and the masons aren’t something we can depend on in end-game.

Well, no, it’s not likely that the outed Masons will make it to endgame (although it’s not impossible, either) but that doesn’t mean they’re useless, and it doesn’t mean we should be hoping the scum should pick them off.

I will admit, I think I might have misinterpreted your “Masons are players with no power. Nothing, nada, they can’t do anything.” as meaning that Masons in general are powerless, as opposed to exposed Masons being powerless (which is that I’m inferring when I reread it now). That’s somewhat wrong, too, in that, if nothing else, we can assume that the Masons, while not necessarily right in their analysis, are at least pro-Town in their analysis (i.e. not lying).

I still disagree strongly with the “Honestly I’d rather have scum pick off the masons for the next three or four nights and thus carry the real power roles into end game.” statement however.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/382 "2008-11-05T03:03:58Z")

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> [@NaturalBlondChap](#):
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> Jeez ask a question, go to bed, and wake up in the vote lead.  
> Count me in as another one who really did not see ‘hey new page’ and have it twig that JSexton had not seen Pedescribes role claim.  
> Jsexton post looked odd to me so i asked question, simple as that.
> 
> Not sure I would classify my question as an attack on Jsexton, but YMMV and all.

Uh, **ESPN**.

See previously suggested advice to **pede**.

And if freaking **Hero** comes in with a lame butt comment I am referring him to the SDAB. That way he might learn something. Ask before you speak. Talk softly and carry a big stick. We have nothing to fear but fear itself. The boiling point of water in centigrade is 100. China is kind of east of Africa unless you go way west.

Ya’ know.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/383 "2008-11-05T03:11:56Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> Uh, **ESPN**.
> 
> See previously suggested advice to **pede**.
> 
> And if freaking **Hero** comes in with a lame butt comment I am referring him to the SDAB. That way he might learn something. Ask before you speak. Talk softly and carry a big stick. We have nothing to fear but fear itself. The boiling point of water in centigrade is 100. China is kind of east of Africa unless you go way west.
> 
> Ya’ know.

…my brain hurts.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/384 "2008-11-05T03:18:59Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> …my brain hurts.

Aspirin.

Now I am Ralph Nader.

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**Author:** ![Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hero_From_Sector_7G)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/385 "2008-11-05T03:21:43Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> That way he might learn something.

wtf dude. This is a game.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/386 "2008-11-05T03:23:58Z")

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> [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](#):
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> wtf dude. This is a game.

Lesson 1: You usually have to read peeker’s posts two or three times before you can parse them properly.

😉  
But seriously, I didn’t get it either. I think he’s trying to say that you’re mistaken about certain fundamental strategies and theories regarding masons, but I’m not sure.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/387 "2008-11-05T03:29:29Z")

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> [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](#):
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> wtf dude. This is a game.

Indeedly. Break the code, win a kewpie.

Seriously, **Pleo** they started it.

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**Author:** ![Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hero_From_Sector_7G)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/388 "2008-11-05T03:34:31Z")

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Screw that. I didn’t claim to come into this knowing everything. I’ve been reading from [mafiascum.net](http://mafiascum.net) as much as I can, but you’re right, I don’t know every in and out. I’m doing my best and contributing as much as I can.

That is a shitty thing to say to someone new to the game.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/389 "2008-11-05T03:40:23Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> Lesson 1: You usually have to read peeker’s posts two or three times before you can parse them properly.
> 
> 😉  
> But seriously, I didn’t get it either. I think he’s trying to say that you’re mistaken about certain fundamental strategies and theories regarding masons, but I’m not sure.

Not even close. Did no one else read Nader’s press conference transcripts. My lord the country is going to heck in a hand basket. Let’s fight ignorance, not be ignorant. And is humor lost on the jaded youth?

Dark eye shadow on our treasured daughters. Disillusinment on our sacred sons.

We must do all in our power to encourage them to be productive contributors to our Social Security funds.

Otherwise it’s Alpo and Saltines for my “glorious” years.

Swear to og **pleo** they are egging me on.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/390 "2008-11-05T03:44:26Z")

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> [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](#):
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> Screw that. I didn’t claim to come into this knowing everything. I’ve been reading from [mafiascum.net](http://mafiascum.net) as much as I can, but you’re right, I don’t know every in and out. I’m doing my best and contributing as much as I can.
> 
> That is a shitty thing to say to someone new to the game.

What specifically do you find to be “shitty”?

It is a question.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/391 "2008-11-05T03:46:38Z")

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> [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](#):
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> Screw that. I didn’t claim to come into this knowing everything. I’ve been reading from [mafiascum.net](http://mafiascum.net) as much as I can, but you’re right, I don’t know every in and out. I’m doing my best and contributing as much as I can.
> 
> That is a shitty thing to say to someone new to the game.

Just be glad you didn’t get the CapnPitt [welcome wagon](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=456652) (lynched day one for a minor slip)

Or the faithfool [welcome wagon](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=447411) (made a minor slip, despite backings from a mod and the only power role, was pursued by certain players over the entire game only to lose the game for the town due to lack of participation)

This game tends to be…unforgiving to newbies. But it’s not impossible. I survived to the end of my [first game](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=461435), which my side won.

My biggest advice would be to not take things personally. Discussion here tends to get hotter than a steel mill, but if you stick around for the nights people are almost never actually mad at each other.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/392 "2008-11-05T03:48:31Z")

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NETA: (Incedentally, the third game was chock-full of new players, and would be good reading on what and what not to do in your first game).

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**Author:** ![Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hero_From_Sector_7G)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/393 "2008-11-05T03:51:32Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> What specifically do you find to be “shitty”?
> 
> It is a question.

I quoted it before. If you want to contribute to this game that would be nice. But if you insist on directly stating how my comments are “lame” I’m done here. I’m willing to accept that my logic might not be correct, but for you to suggest I shutup before I speak is fucking insulting.

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**Author:** ![Hawkeyeop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/958977/32.png) [@Hawkeyeop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hawkeyeop)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/394 "2008-11-05T04:00:06Z")

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Now, now everyone play nice. Or fight about who’s **Og** is more powerful. That would be cool too. As long as you are all referring to me.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/395 "2008-11-05T04:03:59Z")

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Ok. If I am getting fucked then so be it. This a tough crowd but generally sweeter than sugar. Just don’t take that candy from **santo** , however.

I am with the advisory board. No way in hell am I telling you my power, however. Most of the grey beards already have seen this. You kind of have to look between the lines to see the clues. And with with me they are just a little more obvious. The real artists: fucking **blam** , **story** , **santo** , **pleo** , **squiddy** , **jsex** and the rest of the crowd are real phuqs. **OXY** , **pede** and **moi** not as much. I just obfuscate to make the hints a little less obvious.

Hitch it up, buck it up and let’s start lynching. You are in a pretty heavy hitting crew so don’t get your feathers ruffled.

And to the ones mentioned previously pffffffft.

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**Author:** ![Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hero_From_Sector_7G)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/396 "2008-11-05T04:06:35Z")

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\<sigh\> You have a funny way of bread-crumbing. My apologies. I guess I’m a little sensitive.

My boy Nader didn’t win it tonight.

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/397 "2008-11-05T04:10:00Z")

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> [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](#):
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> I quoted it before. If you want to contribute to this game that would be nice. But if you insist on directly stating how my comments are “lame” I’m done here. I’m willing to accept that my logic might not be correct, but for you to suggest I shutup before I speak is fucking insulting.

Uh, peace initially.

If “lame” was the worst thing that was said about my posts I would be ecstatic. Normally, replace the e with a b and insert **Hal** and then you have a threesome.

P.s. Don’t let my wife know.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/398 "2008-11-05T04:12:51Z")

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Also, it might help to make a list of all claims:

Unconfirmed Claims:  
Santo Rugger–Terry–Can extend day given right conditions.  
Nanook–No name given, but he says it’s not on the list–No powers claimed, drawback is that he has to have a different person vote for him each day or die.  
peeker–SDSAB–No powers claimed

Semi-Confirmed Claims:  
pedescribe–Charter Member–Masonish, knows amrussel is a Charter Member  
amrussel–Charter Member–Masonish, knows someone is a Charter Member

Death Confirmed Claims:  
-None yet-  
Reply With Quote

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**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/399 "2008-11-05T04:27:16Z")

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> [@pedescribe](#):
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> Also, it might help to make a list of all claims:
> 
> Unconfirmed Claims:  
> Santo Rugger–Terry–Can extend day given right conditions.  
> Nanook–No name given, but he says it’s not on the list–No powers claimed, drawback is that he has to have a different person vote for him each day or die.  
> peeker–SDSAB–No powers claimed
> 
> Semi-Confirmed Claims:  
> pedescribe–Charter Member–Masonish, knows amrussel is a Charter Member  
> amrussel–Charter Member–Masonish, knows someone is a Charter Member
> 
> Death Confirmed Claims:  
> -None yet-  
> Reply With Quote

Uh, **pede** you screwed up.

I should be under the confirmed claims since I said so. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/400 "2008-11-05T04:28:57Z")

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> [@peekercpa](#):
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> Uh, **pede** you screwed up.
> 
> I should be under the confirmed claims since I said so. 🙂

Silly, there’s no category for that–just un, semi, and death.

Unless you’re volunteering to ‘take one for the team’.

😉

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