# Sdmb mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 30, 2008, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198 "2008-10-30T02:29:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/721 "2008-11-10T23:34:50Z")
> [@ok11](#): > > **JSexton** , if you have something to say, say it. If you think it’s bad for you to say it, than why did you bring it up? Well, see, I’d rather you go first. Instead of tailoring your response to my accusation, I’d rather hear what you have to say, and I suspect you know exactly what I’m talking about. Last chance. ---
**Author:** ![ok11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8baadc/32.png) [@ok11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ok11)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/722 "2008-11-10T23:36:03Z")
Just spit it out already. ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/723 "2008-11-10T23:46:05Z")
> [@Santo\_Rugger](#): > > So you’re saying we should just ignore slips, since they might just be fumblebrainedness? Otherwise, I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. I’m saying SDMB players, as town, have a very long track record of lynching townies for innocent slips, and we need to refine our search methods. ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/724 "2008-11-10T23:55:00Z")
> [@ok11](#): > > Just spit it out already. ban ok11, then. ---
**Author:** ![ok11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8baadc/32.png) [@ok11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ok11)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/725 "2008-11-10T23:59:21Z")
😕 ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2008, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/726 "2008-11-10T23:59:44Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > Well, see, I’d rather you go first. Instead of tailoring your response to my accusation, I’d rather hear what you have to say, and I suspect you know exactly what I’m talking about. Last chance. Christ! Will one of the two of you finally either talk, or just whip 'em out and we can all measure 'em and vote accordingly. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/727 "2008-11-11T00:01:11Z")
All right, I’m ok with this. We pretty much have a situation where either **ok11** or **JSexton** is scum/PFK. There is a _small_ chance of them both being town and someone getting bad info here, but it seems to me the odds favor going with it. Ban **ok11** , and if she comes up clean, then **JSexton** is next on the block. Vote **ok11** ---
**Author:** ![ok11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8baadc/32.png) [@ok11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ok11)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/728 "2008-11-11T00:03:37Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > Christ! Will one of the two of you finally either talk, or just whip 'em out and we can all measure 'em and vote accordingly. I have no idea what he’s getting at, so I can’t really defend myself. I didn’t do anything at Night, so whatever he’s implying is wrong. I can’t believe I sat here all this time refreshing the page and waiting to see what he’s talking about. Thanks for wasting my time. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/729 "2008-11-11T00:04:31Z")
> [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](#): > > Christ! Will one of the two of you finally either talk, or just whip 'em out and we can all measure 'em and vote accordingly. Hey, let 'em keep quiet. If **ok11** comes back as scum/PFK, then great – we know\* **JSexton** can be trusted, but he doesn’t have to spill everything and clue in the scum as to his role… \*The role of “know” will be played by “be pretty sure, anyway”. I’ll feel better if **ok11** came back as PFK. If she comes up scum, then there will be the nagging thought that **JSexton** is a busing scumbuddy. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/730 "2008-11-11T00:06:22Z")
> [@ok11](#): > > I have no idea what he’s getting at, so I can’t really defend myself. I didn’t do anything at Night, so whatever he’s implying is wrong. If that’s true, then your banning would be terrific for town – your death post would nail **JSexton** to a wall. ---
**Author:** ![Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hero_From_Sector_7G)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/731 "2008-11-11T00:09:54Z")
My head is still spinning from that awkward exchange. Can anyone parse wtf just happened? ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/732 "2008-11-11T00:11:08Z")
I’m down with that. Either we score one or two! **unvote Kat** **vote ok11** It would be a bold as hell scum move to just J’accuse! like that out of thin air, unless one or the other has some kind of restriction on them. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/733 "2008-11-11T00:27:22Z")
> [@ok11](#): > > I have no idea what he’s getting at, so I can’t really defend myself. I didn’t do anything at Night, so whatever he’s implying is wrong. > > I can’t believe I sat here all this time refreshing the page and waiting to see what he’s talking about. Thanks for wasting my time. ok11’s right. Jsexton threw something out there, and waited for ok11 to hang himself. It didn’t happen, and so it’s now J’s responsibility to back up his accusation. I’m happy to reverse this vote when Jsexton explains what he saw ok11 do. Until then, I’ve gotta vote to **Ban: Jsexton** ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/734 "2008-11-11T00:28:50Z")
Apologies for my failing to have a vote on the table at the end of Day One. It was a rough weekend, and today hasn’t been much better. I’m not comfortable with a vote for ok11 yet… in the absence of a claimed action by Jsexton, I can think of at least one scenario that explains the current posts by both parties. I’d like to know more. ---
**Author:** ![Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hero_From_Sector_7G)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/735 "2008-11-11T00:28:57Z")
Hmn, on further re-reading it appears one of them is lying. **JSexton** and **ok11** is my interpretation correct? ---
**Author:** ![JSexton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@JSexton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JSexton)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/736 "2008-11-11T00:30:15Z")
unban ok11. It was a gambit based on a hunch, nothing more. I’m satisfied with ok11’s response. Carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hero_From_Sector_7G)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/737 "2008-11-11T00:36:27Z")
Hmn, **Hal** and **Zsofia**? You guys were pretty quick to hop on that train. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/738 "2008-11-11T00:37:32Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > unban ok11. It was a gambit based on a hunch, nothing more. I’m satisfied with ok11’s response. Carry on. What? Excuse you? That is NOT, in my opinion, very pro-town. What if the day ended in 48 hours and I had a connection problem? **unvote ok11** **vote JSexton** ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/739 "2008-11-11T00:38:38Z")
> [@Hero\_From\_Sector\_7G](#): > > Hmn, **Hal** and **Zsofia**? You guys were pretty quick to hop on that train. It seemed like pretty good reasoning, if we hadn’t, say, been just jerked around like that - instead of trying to pick scum out of more than 25 people, we seemed to have a situation where at worst we lynch two people and get one scum - pretty good odds, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198/740 "2008-11-11T00:42:32Z")
> [@JSexton](#): > > unban ok11. It was a gambit based on a hunch, nothing more. I’m satisfied with ok11’s response. Carry on. That’s a big load of horse manure, Jsexton. After losing 3 townies in one day, you wanted to risk a gamble on… what? Randomly happening into scum? It sounds to me a hell of a lot more like scum hoping to land on a pro-Town power role who would have to out himself, and simultaneously garner loads of Towny cred. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198.md?page=36) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-mafia/470198.md?page=38)