# SDMB main banner is messed up

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523>\
**Category:** Site Feedback\
**Created:** [April 19, 2024, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523 "2024-04-19T21:46:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/21 "2024-04-20T00:11:29Z")

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Which theme?

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/22 "2024-04-20T00:16:28Z")

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Desktop, Windows 10, Firefox current version (125.0.1), Straight Dope Light theme.

[![](https://i.ibb.co/N1YCBZ2/SWDMB-Banner.jpg) ](https://i.ibb.co/N1YCBZ2/SWDMB-Banner.jpg)

I blocked out the shortcuts in my sidebar, which I normally keep open.

Like others have described, once scrolling down into a thread the problem goes away. Presumably because it no longer displays the subheading at all.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/23 "2024-04-20T00:36:37Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> But, using the Straight Dope Light theme on Chrome on Windows 10 has the red “Fighting Ignorance since 1972” and “It’s taking longe rthan we thought” in the wrong place

Also on Chrome Windows 10 and I don’t have the red stuff show up at all.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/24 "2024-04-20T00:38:40Z")

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I’m on Firefox, Windows 10 (I think so). Banner and menus in wrong place. Hard talk complete sentences. I go now.

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/25 "2024-04-20T00:46:14Z")

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Banner messed up for me too. Windows 11, both Firefox and Chrome, Straight Dope Light theme.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/26 "2024-04-20T00:51:52Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> It went back to normal when I switched the theme from Light to Dark.

I’m not sure what this is supposed to mean. I just tried the Straight Dope Dark theme and it has exactly the same problem as Straight Dope Light.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/27 "2024-04-20T01:13:56Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> The banner is normal within any topic.

Not on mine, or not any longer. I’m now seeing this weird new version on individual topic pages.

Firefox on an old Minimac running 10.13.4, Straight Dope Light.

– wait a minute. It just went back to normal. I hadn’t refreshed or re-opened the page. It’s 9:11 PM EST and it must have just happened. – but I looked at a couple of other pages I have open and they still have the weird version. – I have a number of threads open and some of them show one version, some the other. But this one changed while I was typing this post, and I hadn’t done anything else to the page.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/28 "2024-04-20T04:13:50Z")

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For now I used adblock to block the red stuff, and things scooted back over. It still doesn’t look right, though. Something is missing.

And @thorny_locust: The way it has always worked for me is that you get one banner with the full “The Straight Dope Message Board” appears when you are at the top of a Topic (i.e. thread) but changes to a banner with “SD” and the title of the thread once the title has been scrolled off screen. The same is true in messages.

On all other pages, I always get the full “The Straight Dope Message Board” banner. And that’s the one that is messed up.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/29 "2024-04-20T10:41:20Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Agree with the OP’s description. Win10 & MS Edge browser. Started some time this afternoon, 4/19/2024.

> [@What\_Exit](#):
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> Which theme?

D’oh! Straight Dope Light for me.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/30 "2024-04-20T11:25:48Z")

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I think it’s now established that:

- Straight Dope Light and Straight Dope Dark both have the banner problem, appearing more or less like the screenshots that I and @EllisDee posted, with slight variations depending on screen resolution and browser. It may or may not also affect other themes.

- The problem appears both on the banner on the main message board page and when navigating to any forum. The banner that appears within a thread is the normal one and displays correctly.

- It is not a browser or OS problem.

- The problem was first observed in the early afternoon of Friday April 19.

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/31 "2024-04-20T12:08:30Z")

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Same with me (Firefox and Samsung browser)

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/32 "2024-04-20T15:37:14Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> And @thorny_locust: The way it has always worked for me is that you get one banner with the full “The Straight Dope Message Board” appears when you are at the top of a Topic (i.e. thread) but changes to a banner with “SD” and the title of the thread once the title has been scrolled off screen. The same is true in messages.

I wasn’t at the top of the topic when I made that post; I was already most of the way down. And the banner changed while I was typing the post, not while I was scrolling.

It now seems normal on all the thread pages, but has the weird version on Unread, New, and Latest.

> [@wolfpup](#):
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> The banner that appears within a thread is the normal one and displays correctly.

I had the strange version on individual threads for a while yesterday. I don’t right now.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/33 "2024-04-22T20:24:13Z")

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Which leads me to the inevitable question. How do I change my theme?

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/34 "2024-04-22T20:28:17Z")

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You’ll need a phone booth

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/35 "2024-04-22T20:40:16Z")

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Or a really good composer.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/36 "2024-04-22T20:48:24Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> How do I change my theme?

If this is a serious question, the answer was given in the first reply to this thread.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/37 "2024-04-24T16:59:24Z")

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Yay!! Thanks to whoever fixed the banner! 🙂

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/38 "2024-04-24T17:01:54Z")

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All I know is Ed was working with the techs on it. So @Ed_Zotti is the one to thank connected to the board and unknown tech person for the actual fix I would think.

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**Author:** ![Ed\_Zotti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@Ed\_Zotti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ed_Zotti)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/39 "2024-04-24T21:59:53Z")

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So is all now good? Looks OK on my end.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2024, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-main-banner-is-messed-up/1000523/40 "2024-04-24T22:10:03Z")

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> [@Ed\_Zotti](#):
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> So is all now good? Looks OK on my end. &nbsp;

Yes, and thank you very much for your help on this. The banner looks exactly like it did before in the Straight Dope Light theme that I use and that I believe is quite commonly used. All is good! 🙂

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