# SDMB Modern Diplomacy Game \*anyone - comment away\*

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 11, 2011, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488 "2011-05-11T06:00:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/1 "2011-05-11T06:00:01Z")

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European war imminent - clashes reported in Spain and France, fleets and armies across the continent mobilized!

Map showing the moves:  
[https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7wP5inGPgNVMTgyNjY0NTEtMGNhZS00YWY2LTg5ZTUtNWI4MjU3ZWQ2ZWEy&hl=en](https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7wP5inGPgNVMTgyNjY0NTEtMGNhZS00YWY2LTg5ZTUtNWI4MjU3ZWQ2ZWEy&hl=en)

Map showing results:  
[https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7wP5inGPgNVZjFlYzRiYWYtNTYzZS00M2ZjLWI0NjMtZTJmNGRhNWRjNGRk&hl=en](https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7wP5inGPgNVZjFlYzRiYWYtNTYzZS00M2ZjLWI0NjMtZTJmNGRhNWRjNGRk&hl=en)

BRITAIN:  
F Edinburgh -\> Norwegian Sea  
F Gibraltar -\> South Atlantic Ocean  
F Liverpool -\> Irish Sea  
F London -\> North Sea

EGYPT:  
F Alexandria -\> Libyan Sea  
A Aswan -\> Eastern Sahara  
F Cairo -\> Israel

FRANCE:  
F Bordeaux -\> Navarre FAIL Bounced with Madrid (1 against 1).  
A Lyon -\> Alsace FAIL Bounced with Munich (1 against 1).  
A Marseilles Holds  
A Paris -\> Auvergne

GERMANY:  
No order for unit at Hamburg. Hold order assigned.

F Berlin -\> Denmark FAIL  
A Frankfurt -\> Bordeaux FAIL  
F Hamburg NMR  
A Munich -\> Alsace FAIL Bounced with Lyon (1 against 1).

ITALY:  
A Milan -\> Austria  
F Naples -\> Maltese Sea  
A Rome -\> Venice  
F Venice -\> Adriatic Sea

POLAND:  
F Gdansk -\> Lithuania  
A Krakow -\> Czech Republic  
A Warsaw -\> Krakow

RUSSIA:  
A Gorky -\> Volga  
A Moscow -\> Belorussia  
A Murmansk -\> Lapland  
F Rostov -\> Eastern Black Sea  
F St Petersburg -\> Gulf of Bothnia

SPAIN:  
F Barcelona Holds  
A Madrid -\> Navarre FAIL Bounced with Bordeaux (1 against 1).  
A Seville -\> Gibraltar

TURKEY:  
A Adana -\> Armenia  
F Ankara -\> Georgia  
A Istanbul -\> Bulgaria  
F Izmir -\> Istanbul

UKRAINE:  
A Kharkov -\> Donbas  
A Kiev Supports A Moscow -\> Belorussia  
A Odessa -\> Rumania  
F Sevastopol Holds

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/2 "2011-05-11T07:35:18Z")

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and the rush for the nearest open SPs begins

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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/3 "2011-05-11T08:09:13Z")

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> [@wevets](#):
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> European war imminent - clashes reported in Spain and France, fleets and armies across the continent mobilized!
> 
> Map showing the moves:  
> [https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7wP5inGPgNVMTgyNjY0NTEtMGNhZS00YWY2LTg5ZTUtNWI4MjU3ZWQ2ZWEy&hl=en](https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7wP5inGPgNVMTgyNjY0NTEtMGNhZS00YWY2LTg5ZTUtNWI4MjU3ZWQ2ZWEy&hl=en)
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> Map showing results:  
> [https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7wP5inGPgNVZjFlYzRiYWYtNTYzZS00M2ZjLWI0NjMtZTJmNGRhNWRjNGRk&hl=en](https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7wP5inGPgNVZjFlYzRiYWYtNTYzZS00M2ZjLWI0NjMtZTJmNGRhNWRjNGRk&hl=en)

Aren’t those the same images?

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/4 "2011-05-11T09:59:59Z")

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Germany is in a bit of a pickle…

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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/5 "2011-05-11T10:11:58Z")

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More of a quagmire really…

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/6 "2011-05-11T13:32:12Z")

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Correct - they were the same image.

New Results image: [https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7wP5inGPgNVNjVlNmU5NzEtNmZlYy00MDhkLThiZWQtNWZkNGU2ZjdlZDk1&hl=en](https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7wP5inGPgNVNjVlNmU5NzEtNmZlYy00MDhkLThiZWQtNWZkNGU2ZjdlZDk1&hl=en)

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/7 "2011-05-11T14:04:30Z")

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Oh man, Germany really porked the pooch there. I know we have newbs in this game, which is fine (and if anyone wants to PM me/post here about tactics-in general-I am willing to educate), but oh dear lord, to try to teleport 4 spaces across the map in one turn…

I found a [.pdf of the official rules](http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf), for those who are still a bit foggy on them.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/8 "2011-05-11T14:27:43Z")

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Germany might not be completely screwed. He’s got negotiation possibilities over Switzerland and Austria. But going NMR for F Hamburg – WTF?

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/9 "2011-05-11T14:31:15Z")

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I ordered my Army in Marseille to “Monte Carlo,” not “Monaco.” Good thing Italy went northeast.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/10 "2011-05-11T14:58:42Z")

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> [@Scuba\_Ben](#):
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> But going NMR for F Hamburg – WTF?

Hold orders are cleaner but quite a few people I’ve played with before just don’t put in moves for holding units.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/11 "2011-05-11T17:51:08Z")

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It’s hard to tell if moves far away are pro- or anti- any given country.

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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/12 "2011-05-11T20:00:47Z")

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Diplomacy needs to introduce paratroopers in addition to fleets and armies. Would add a whole new dimension to the game…

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/13 "2011-05-11T22:41:11Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Oh man, Germany really porked the pooch there. I know we have newbs in this game, which is fine (and if anyone wants to PM me/post here about tactics-in general-I am willing to educate), but oh dear lord, to try to teleport 4 spaces across the map in one turn…
> 
> I found a [.pdf of the official rules](http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf), for those who are still a bit foggy on them.

The person playing as Germany SUCKS! 😉

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/14 "2011-05-16T06:08:15Z")

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Fighting reported across Europe from Spain to the Caucasus, neutral territory falls under the sway of the great powers.

Map of Moves: [https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7w...ZjEyMmI3&hl=en](https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7w...ZjEyMmI3&hl=en)

Map of Results: [https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7w...YWE2Mzhm&hl=en](https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7w...YWE2Mzhm&hl=en)  
BRITAIN:  
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be build: 3  
F Irish Sea - Ireland  
F North Sea - Belgium  
F Norwegian Sea - Norway  
F South Atlantic Ocean - Morocco

EGYPT:  
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 2.  
A Eastern Sahara - Libya  
F Israel Holds  
F Libyan Sea supports A Eastern Sahara - Libya

FRANCE:  
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 3.  
A Auvergne - Barcelona  
F Bordeaux - Navarre  
A Lyon - Switzerland  
A Marseilles - Monaco

GERMANY:  
F Berlin - Saxony FAIL  
A Frankfurt - Saxony FAIL (Bounced with Munich)  
F Hamburg - Bornholm Sea  
A Munich - Saxony FAIL (Bounced with Frankfurt)

ITALY:  
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 3.  
F Adriatic Sea - Ionian Sea  
A Austria - Hungary  
F Maltese Sea - Tunisia  
A Venice - Croatia

POLAND:  
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 2.  
A Czech Republic Holds  
A Krakow - Belorussia FAIL (Bounced with Belorussia)  
F Lithuania Holds

RUSSIA:  
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.  
A Belorussia supports A Krakow - Podolia FAIL (Does not match order given)  
F Eastern Black Sea supports A Volga - Rostov FAIL (Support cut by Move from Sevastopol)  
F Gulf of Bothnia - Baltic Sea  
A Lapland - Sweden  
A Volga - Rostov FAIL (Bounced with Donbas)

SPAIN:  
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.  
F Barcelona - Gulf of Lyon  
A Gibraltar - Texas (Hold order assigned)  
A Madrid - Portugal

TURKEY:  
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 4  
A Armenia - Iran  
A Bulgaria - Serbia  
F Georgia supports A Donbas - Rostov  
F Istanbul - Greece

UKRAINE:  
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 2.  
No order for unit at Rumania. Hold order assigned.  
A Donbas - Rostov  
A Kiev - Kharkov  
A Rumania Holds  
F Sevastopol - Eastern Black Sea FAIL (Bounced with Eastern Black Sea)

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/15 "2011-05-16T06:09:20Z")

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Really interesting to see how the east is turning out. Betrayals already - with quite a bit of forethought to them.

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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/16 "2011-05-16T13:44:26Z")

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Germany had a _triple_ self-bounce into Saxony? Talk about uber fail.

For my two Eurocents, I’d talk up an alliance to put Germany out of our misery.

Turkey has set itself up to be a major player in the east – this should lead into more exciting play than in standard Diplomacy.

I’ll comment further when I have a chance to review the map.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/17 "2011-05-16T14:26:46Z")

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Is anyone else having trouble loading the results page?

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/18 "2011-05-16T14:30:03Z")

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It asks me to log in, but I’m not sure which “login” it wants (Youtube, Yahoo, or something else?)-in any event since it shot down my login info, I can’t see the maps. I can see the ones from last week tho just fine… 😕

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/19 "2011-05-16T14:50:00Z")

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Even stranger-looks like I did register for Google itself awhile back-when I went to reset my password (which wasn’t working), the security question it asked me was in French (and given my password I know what I would have asked myself). 😕

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/20 "2011-05-16T16:49:45Z")

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Just in case of difficulties, I’ll start keeping them in Flickr instead of Google Docs.

Moves Map for Fall 1995 here: [http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5726600099/in/photostream](http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5726600099/in/photostream)

Results Map for Fall 1995 here: [http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5727162482/in/photostream/](http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5727162482/in/photostream/)

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