# SDMB Modern Diplomacy Game \*anyone - comment away\* **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 11, 2011, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488 "2011-05-11T06:00:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/21 "2011-05-16T16:58:16Z")
I picked the Google setting “anyone can view” but it sounds like Google wants a login? That doesn’t make any sense to me. Now let’s see if the Flickr setting “anyone can view” is different… ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/22 "2011-05-16T17:11:58Z")
> [@wevets](#): > > Just in case of difficulties, I’ll start keeping them in Flickr instead of Google Docs. > > Moves Map for Fall 1995 here: [http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5726600099/in/photostream](http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5726600099/in/photostream) > > Results Map for Fall 1995 here: [http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5727162482/in/photostream/](http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5727162482/in/photostream/) Can’t download from Flickr. Can view but can’t save to my computer. Could you start emailing the adjudicated orders and maps to the players in addition to posting them here so we don’t have to track down links? ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/23 "2011-05-16T17:38:19Z")
Sure. Email sent. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/24 "2011-05-17T18:05:31Z")
Winter 1995 Build Orders UKRAINE: Build A Kiev Build A Odessa RUSSIA: Build A Moscow TURKEY: Build F Izmir Build A Istanbul Build A Ankara Build A Adana EGYPT: Build F Cairo Build F Alexandria POLAND: Build A Gdansk Build A Warsaw BRITAIN: Build F Edinburgh Build A Liverpool Build F London ITALY: Build A Milan Build A Venice Build F Naples FRANCE: Build A Bordeaux Build F Marseilles Build A Lyon SPAIN: Build A Madrid [Map on Flickr](http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5730521657/) [Map on Google Docs](https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7wP5inGPgNVNTY0YzJmOTYtZjk5NC00MWE4LTk3ODQtMzVkZjAyYzY3NjE2&hl=en) ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/25 "2011-05-23T18:32:37Z")
Yay! We’ve got a new German player taking over. Next turn is due Thursday, May 26th. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/26 "2011-05-27T16:11:05Z")
Spring 1996 Fighting spreads through the Mediterranean, Eastern Europe and Iberia! [Image of Spring 1996 Results](https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7wP5inGPgNVZmU3OGIxYmItMTgzMi00OTBiLTkxYjktMjUwMjgyNjI1NDg0&sort=name&layout=list&num=50) Results for Spring, 1996 (Movement) Order Results: BRITAIN: Britain: F Belgium -\> Holland Britain: F Edinburgh -\> North Sea Britain: F Ireland -\> Irish Sea Britain: A Liverpool -\> Wales Britain: F London -\> English Channel Britain: F Morocco -\> Algeria Britain: F Norway -\> Skaggerak EGYPT: Egypt: F Alexandria -\> Libyan Sea FAIL because Egypt: F lbn -\> ion failed. Egypt: F Cairo -\> Red Sea Egypt: F Israel -\> Eastern Mediterranean Egypt: A Libya -\> Tunisia FAIL Bounced with tun (1 against 1). Egypt: F Libyan Sea -\> Ionian Sea FAIL Bounced with ion (2 against 2). FRANCE: France: A Barcelona Supports A Bordeaux -\> Navarre France: A Bordeaux -\> Navarre France: A Lyon -\> Auvergne FAIL Bounced with gol (1 against 1). France: F Marseilles -\> Gulf of Lyon FAIL because Spain: F gol -\> auv failed. France: A Monaco -\> Marseilles FAIL because France: F mar -\> gol failed. France: F Navarre -\> Mid-Atlantic France: A Switzerland Holds GERMANY: Germany: F Berlin -\> Hamburg Germany: F Bornholm Sea -\> Denmark Germany: A Frankfurt -\> Ruhr Germany: A Munich Holds ITALY: Italy: A Croatia -\> Bosnia Italy: A Hungary Supports A Venice -\> Croatia FAIL Support cut by Move from Rumania. Italy: F Ionian Sea Supports F Israel -\> Eastern Mediterranean FAIL Support cut by Move from Libyan Sea. Italy: A Milan Holds Italy: F Naples Supports F Ionian Sea Italy: F Tunisia Supports F Morocco -\> Algeria FAIL Support cut by Move from Libya. Italy: A Venice -\> Croatia FAIL Bounced with ser (1 against 1). POLAND: Poland: A Czech Republic -\> Austria Poland: A Gdansk -\> Lithuania Poland: A Krakow Supports A Warsaw -\> Belorussia Poland: F Lithuania -\> Latvia Poland: A Warsaw -\> Belorussia RUSSIA: Russia: F Baltic Sea -\> Sweden Russia: A Belorussia Supports A Krakow -\> Podolia FAIL Support failed. Supported unit’s order does not match support given. Dislodged from war (3 against 1). Russia: F Eastern Black Sea -\> Western Black Sea Russia: A Moscow -\> Central Russian Plateau Russia: A Sweden -\> Lapland Russia: A Volga Supports A Moscow -\> Central Russian Plateau SPAIN: Spain: A Gibraltar -\> Andalucia Spain: F Gulf of Lyon -\> Auvergne FAIL Bounced with lyo (1 against 1). Spain: A Madrid Supports A Gibraltar -\> Andalucia Spain: A Portugal -\> Navarre FAIL Bounced with Nav (1 against 1) TURKEY: Turkey: A Adana -\> Armenia Turkey: A Ankara Supports F Georgia Turkey: F Georgia Supports A Rostov Turkey: F Greece Supports F Libyan Sea -\> Ionian Sea Turkey: A Iran -\> Kazakhstan Turkey: A Istanbul -\> Bulgaria Turkey: F Izmir -\> Aegean Sea Turkey: A Serbia -\> Croatia FAIL Bounced with ven (1 against 1). UKRAINE: No order for unit at Kharkov. Hold order assigned. No order for unit at Sevastopol. Hold order assigned. Ukraine: A Kharkov Holds Ukraine: A Kiev Supports A Warsaw -\> Belorussia Ukraine: A Odessa -\> Podolia Ukraine: A Rostov Holds Ukraine: A Rumania -\> Hungary FAIL Bounced with hun (1 against 1). Ukraine: F Sevastopol Holds ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/27 "2011-05-27T16:12:58Z")
Interesting fighting going on between France & Spain and Russia vs. Ukraine/Poland. Now that Germany’s asserting itself, central Europe should also become really complicated really quickly! ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/28 "2011-05-27T16:29:55Z")
> [@wevets](#): > > Spring 1996 > > Russia: A Belorussia Supports A Krakow -\> Podolia FAIL Support failed. Supported unit’s order does not match support given. Dislodged from war (3 against 1). Surely I have the option to retreat to Moscow - for all the good that will do me? ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/29 "2011-05-27T16:49:48Z")
> [@grimpixie](#): > > Surely I have the option to retreat to Moscow - for all the good that will do me? Never mind - just seen your request in the other thread. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/30 "2011-05-27T16:57:24Z")
> [@wevets](#): > > Interesting fighting going on between France & Spain and Russia vs. Ukraine/Poland. Now that Germany’s asserting itself, central Europe should also become really complicated really quickly! Germany and Poland made pretty big moves this turn (especially Poland). France is setting up the death choke against Spain, won’t be long now. Italy is surprisingly strong vs. me and Egypt, and it looks like England is coming to help. Russian sailors in the black sea are soon to be unemployed. The wars seem too close to call, except in the case of Spain and maybe Russia. If either of them don’t get help soon, they’re cooked I think. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/31 "2011-05-27T19:41:05Z")
True - Spain is in poor shape, with the French moving in strongly and while Russia is fighting both Ukraine and Poland, Russia has room to defend herself while Spain’s back is up against the wall. It should be interesting to see how Turkey’s army plays into the far eastern Europe conflict. By the way, in case anyone missed it in the other thread, Russia retreated to Moscow, updated map here: [map image](https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7wP5inGPgNVMjUwMDhkMTgtZTg1OC00OGEzLThiNDItYmM3ZDNlMWFmMTUx&hl=en_US). ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/32 "2011-06-09T06:14:35Z")
Wow - fighting all over the place. Fat lady not even close to singing. [Results Map on Flickr](http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5814433694/in/photostream) Britain: Britain: F Algeria Supports F Tunisia FAIL Support failed. Move orders must be supported explicitly. Britain: F English Channel Convoys A Wales -\> Belgium Britain: F Holland Supports A Wales -\> Belgium FAIL Support cut by Move from Hamburg. Dislodged from ham (2 against 1). Britain: F Irish Sea -\> Mid-Atlantic Ocean FAIL Bounced with mid (1 against 1). Britain: F North Sea Supports F Holland FAIL Support cut by Move from Denmark. Britain: F Skaggerak Supports F Sweden -\> Denmark Britain: A Wales -\> Belgium Convoy path taken: wal→eng→bel. Egypt: Egypt: F Alexandria -\> Eastern Sahara Egypt: F Eastern Mediterranean -\> Ionian Sea Egypt: A Libya -\> Tunisia FAIL Bounced with tun (1 against 1). Egypt: F Libyan Sea Supports F Eastern Mediterranean -\> Ionian Sea Egypt: F Red Sea -\> Saudi Arabia France: France: A Barcelona -\> Madrid France: A Lyon Supports A Switzerland France: F Marseilles -\> Gulf of Lyon France: F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Supports A Navarre -\> Portugal FAIL Support cut by Move from Irish Sea. France: A Monaco -\> Marseilles France: A Navarre -\> Portugal FAIL Bounced with por (1 against 1). Dislodged from mad (2 against 1). France: A Switzerland Supports A Venice -\> Austria FAIL Support failed. Supported unit’s order does not match support given. Germany: Germany: F Denmark -\> North Sea FAIL Bounced with nth (1 against 1). Dislodged from swe (2 against 1). Germany: F Hamburg -\> Holland Germany: A Munich Holds Germany: A Ruhr Supports F Hamburg -\> Holland Italy: Italy: A Bosnia -\> Serbia FAIL Bounced with ser (1 against 2). Italy: A Hungary Supports A Bosnia -\> Serbia FAIL Support cut by Move from Podolia. Dislodged from pod (2 against 1). Italy: F Ionian Sea -\> Albania Italy: A Milan -\> Switzerland FAIL Bounced with swi (2 against 2). Italy: F Naples -\> Maltese Sea Italy: F Tunisia -\> Libya FAIL Bounced with lib (1 against 1). Italy: A Venice -\> Croatia Poland: Poland: A Austria Supports A Milan -\> Switzerland Poland: A Belorussia -\> Moscow FAIL Bounced with mos (1 against 1). Poland: A Krakow -\> Belorussia FAIL Bounced with mos (1 against 1). Poland: F Latvia -\> Estonia Poland: A Lithuania -\> Latvia Russia: Russia: A Central Russian Plateau Supports A Volga -\> Kharkov FAIL Support cut by Move from Kiev. Russia: A Lapland -\> Murmansk Russia: A Moscow -\> Belorussia FAIL Bounced with kra (1 against 1). Russia: F Sweden -\> Denmark Russia: A Volga -\> Kharkov FAIL Bounced with kha (1 against 1). Dislodged from ros (2 against 1). Russia: F Western Black Sea Supports A Rumania -\> Odessa FAIL Support failed. Supported unit’s order does not match support given. Spain: Spain: A Andalucia Supports F Gulf of Lyon -\> Barcelona Spain: F Gulf of Lyon -\> Barcelona Spain: A Madrid -\> Navarre Spain: A Portugal Supports A Madrid -\> Navarre Turkey: Turkey: F Aegean Sea -\> Istanbul FAIL Bounced with ank (1 against 1). Turkey: A Ankara -\> Istanbul FAIL Bounced with aeg (1 against 1). Turkey: A Armenia -\> Ankara FAIL Failed because Turkey: A ank -\> ist failed. Turkey: A Bulgaria Supports A Serbia Turkey: F Georgia Holds Turkey: F Greece Supports F Eastern Mediterranean -\> Ionian Sea Turkey: A Kazakhstan Supports A Rostov -\> Volga Turkey: A Serbia Supports A Podolia -\> Hungary FAIL Support cut by Move from Bosnia. Ukraine: Ukraine: A Kharkov Supports A Kiev -\> Central Russian Plateau FAIL Support cut by Move from Volga. Ukraine: A Kiev -\> Central Russian Plateau FAIL Bounced with cen (1 against 1). Ukraine: A Podolia -\> Hungary Ukraine: A Rostov -\> Volga Ukraine: A Rumania Supports A Podolia -\> Hungary Ukraine: F Sevastopol -\> Odessa ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/33 "2011-06-09T06:15:59Z")
Poland and Turkey have become quite the powerhouses. It’ll be interesting to watch how the French incursion into Spain turns out too. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/34 "2011-06-09T09:25:10Z")
Spain and France is a lot less one-sided than I thought it would be. Russia is also doing pretty well for himself with a surprise English support. Italy is showing signs of stress, with a disband coming up. Turkey trying and apparently failing to stay under the radar (literally 0 of my units moved last turn). The wars are still too close to call, but I’ll stick with my original prediction that spain and russia have the most to worry about in the near future. Germany’s early failure probably paved the way for poland to expand, but now it looks like they have common interests. Very tricky political situation there, and with a germany with competent leadership, the political game in europe can change quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/35 "2011-06-09T15:01:52Z")
So Poland’s growing because Germany is screwed up in the first year, but Turkey is growing from force of will alone huh? ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/36 "2011-06-09T15:24:29Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > So Poland’s growing because Germany is screwed up in the first year, but Turkey is growing from force of will alone huh? That’s not what I said. Poland is clearly a more than competent player, and has been able to keep his war very contained while capitalizing on German ineptitude. In fact, I believe you were the first to realize that Germany wasn’t playing the same game as the rest of us, way back before the first turn. In contrast, Turkey made some risky, lucky early moves that just haven’t come back to haunt me (yet). I’m sorry for giving the impression that I have anything but great respect for your game so far. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/37 "2011-06-09T16:10:25Z")
I wasn’t offended, just pointing out bias in your play-by-play. It could be your complacent ‘luck’ is due more to neighborhood collusion rather than your particular strategic manoeuvres. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/38 "2011-06-09T16:22:18Z")
Both those countries also benefit from Russia’s beleaguered defensive position. It’s also fascinating to see how the powers have interacted in the central western European supply centers of Austria, Switzerland. No doubt the outcome would have been different had Germany come out of the gate with a more impressive start, but there’s some complicated diplomacy going on behind the scenes there, I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/39 "2011-06-10T00:44:18Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > I wasn’t offended, just pointing out bias in your play-by-play. It could be your complacent ‘luck’ is due more to neighborhood collusion rather than your particular strategic manoeuvres. Anyone who isn’t in collusion with at least some of their neighbors at this point will have very difficult times ahead. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488/40 "2011-06-10T00:52:32Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > Anyone who isn’t in collusion with at least some of their neighbors at this point will have very difficult times ahead. Yup. I just wanted to point out that your self-satisfied commentary didn’t include, “Because Egypt and Ukraine, the majority of my front, has not in anyway threatened me I was able to not only maintain my gains but move forward.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-anyone-comment-away/581488.md?page=3)