# SDMB Modern Diplomacy Game \*players only please\* **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 4, 2011, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770 "2011-05-04T23:20:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/1 "2011-05-04T23:20:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Shortly after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, the Scarlet Plague was unleashed upon the world. Regardless of the Plague’s origin - theories range from an accidental release from an ex-Soviet biowarfare facility, an attack by Middle Eastern terrorist cells, a CIA/extraterrestrial plot, to release of an ancient virus from poorly-explored regions of African rainforest - the balance of power was not sustainable under the strain the epidemic caused. The impact of the Plague was every bit as dramatic as that of the Black Plague 700 years before. Within two years European nations had suffered massive losses to their populations, and frantic efforts to prevent the spread of the virus closed borders, increased xenophobia, and indirectly resulted in the demolition of NATO and the EU. A half-century of political integration and interdependence died with those first cases of the Plague on Jack St. in London. > > When the outbreak in Europe subsided in 1995, the survivors stumbled into a political chaos unrecognizable to Europeans of 1991. Not only had the Warsaw Pact and NATO disappeared, but with the Plague still raging in Asia and America, outside intervention in European politics would be impossible. Three years of Plague outbreaks and quarantines had left the surviving national institutions insular and paranoid, setting the stage for what was to come…\* - Excerpt from John Ulsevly’s _European Politics 1983 to 2034_, published in 2037 by Doubleday, New New York. Welcome to our game of Modern Diplomacy! Our Players: **grimpixie** = **Russia** **fubbleskag** = **Ukraine** **AClockworkMelon** = **Egypt** **John diFool** = **Britain** **etv78** = **Germany** **Omniscient** = **Italy** **garygnu** = **France** **Sitnam** = **Poland** **Mosier** = **Turkey** **Hawkeyeop** = **Spain** Hopefully you have all received an email or PM containing the location of the Google doc contact spreadsheet including where to send orders, how to contact the other players, and a couple links with maps and rules for Diplomacy in general and the Modern variant in particular. If you have any questions, please let me know. **Our first turn - Spring 1995 - will be due 10 PM PDT on May 10th (that’s 1 AM, May 11th, EDT or 6 AM, May 11th GMT or 8 AM, May 11th SAST)** This thread is for **public press** and posting orders results. There will be a separate thread for non-participant kibitzers once the first turn comes in. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/2 "2011-05-04T23:39:02Z")
Here is a map: [https://docs.google.com/document/d/19XmjQLnFZfjU\_kuYv36\_TERs-Qhx6SLGmBcKnOxb2kQ/edit?hl=en&authkey=COahrskG](https://docs.google.com/document/d/19XmjQLnFZfjU_kuYv36_TERs-Qhx6SLGmBcKnOxb2kQ/edit?hl=en&authkey=COahrskG) Since there’s a request for me to post full names, starting positions: RUSSIA Army Murmansk Army Gorky Army Moscow Fleet St Petersburg Fleet Rostov UKRAINE Army Kharkov Army Kiev Army Odessa Fleet Sevastopol TURKEY Army Istanbul Army Adana Fleet Ankara Fleet Izmir EGYPT Army Aswan Fleet Alexandria Fleet Cairo POLAND Fleet Gdansk Army Warsaw Army Krakow GERMANY Fleet Berlin Fleet Hamburg Army Frankfurt Army Munich ITALY Army Milan Army Rome Fleet Venice Fleet Naples FRANCE Army Paris Army Lyon Army Marseilles Fleet Bordeaux BRITAIN Fleet Edinburgh Fleet Liverpool Fleet London Fleet Gibraltar SPAIN Army Madrid Army Seville Fleet Barcelona This map has a couple canals: Fleets can move through canals in Hamburg, Cairo, Rostov, and Volga. Also Iran has a north coast and a south coast. Fleets cannot move directly from one to the other. ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/3 "2011-05-05T06:13:43Z")
Perhaps I should have said “any country other than Russia” in my preferences… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/4 "2011-05-05T16:20:51Z")
> [@wevets](#): > > Hopefully you have all received an email or PM containing the location of the Google doc contact spreadsheet including where to send orders, how to contact the other players, and a couple links with maps and rules for Diplomacy in general and the Modern variant in particular. I have not. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/5 "2011-05-05T19:20:10Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > I have not. Me neither. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/6 "2011-05-05T19:27:45Z")
I sent a PM due to “spreadsheet” issues. ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/7 "2011-05-05T19:44:57Z")
I got it - the PDF was illegible (it didn’t turn your URLs into hyperlinks), and the spreadsheet wouldn’t open online, but it downloaded OK, so I’m good to go… ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/8 "2011-05-05T20:38:30Z")
:o OK. Note to self: Don’t use PDFs through Google Docs. I’ll send everyone the Excel file as an email attachment. If you need it in a format other than excel, let me know. Sorry about the bumpy start. I’ll get the kinks ironed out here. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2011, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/9 "2011-05-05T20:51:43Z")
OK. Email sent (and PM to **etv78** ) 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/10 "2011-05-06T01:09:36Z")
Emails and PMs all sent. I thought I’d make the map bigger so the abbreviations are easier to read: [https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7wP5inGPgNVNDVkOTdmYTAtMGUzNS00ZTI3LTk5ODUtOWRlMTllYTU4MjI3&hl=en](https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B7wP5inGPgNVNDVkOTdmYTAtMGUzNS00ZTI3LTk5ODUtOWRlMTllYTU4MjI3&hl=en) Moldova = Mol still hard to read because of an artifact in converting to a .jpg ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/11 "2011-05-06T01:41:24Z")
If I haven’t sent anything yet, I’ll be doing so within the next 24 hours-the timing of the game start coincided with the busiest work day of the week for me, and I’m pretty spent tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/12 "2011-05-06T02:05:56Z")
Could you please send a group email to everyone that includes an attached large map, list of country names/abbreviations and players’ SDMB usernames, email addresses and country assignments. In the past email has been the best way to send adjudications to the entire group to ensure everyone has the same information. If you’ve already sent it I haven’t received it. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/13 "2011-05-06T02:15:08Z")
Public press announcement from Turkey! Good luck, everyone! May the most honorable warrior win! Failing that, may I at least last longer than Grim. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/14 "2011-05-06T02:15:13Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Could you please send a group email to everyone that includes an attached large map, list of country names/abbreviations and players’ SDMB usernames, email addresses and country assignments. In the past email has been the best way to send adjudications to the entire group to ensure everyone has the same information. > > If you’ve already sent it I haven’t received it. Any chance it’s in your spam box? I sent one email before starting the thread, and a second one today with an Excel attachment. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/15 "2011-05-06T02:19:14Z")
> [@wevets](#): > > Any chance it’s in your spam box? > > I sent one email before starting the thread, and a second one today with an Excel attachment. Yup, was in spam. We’re all set. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/16 "2011-05-06T04:10:18Z")
> [@wevets](#): > > Any chance it’s in your spam box? > > I sent one email before starting the thread, and a second one today with an Excel attachment. I checked my spam box. I’ve received the second email but I’m missing the first (with the list of country names/abbreviations/army-fleet production, etc). Please send it again (or, if anyone else is reading this, send me your copy?)? Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/17 "2011-05-06T09:35:25Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > I checked my spam box. I’ve received the second email but I’m missing the first (with the list of country names/abbreviations/army-fleet production, etc). Please send it again (or, if anyone else is reading this, send me your copy?)? Thanks! Yes, I got the contacts but I also don’t have the country names. ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/18 "2011-05-06T11:10:56Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > Public press announcement from Turkey! > > Good luck, everyone! May the most honorable warrior win! Failing that, may I at least last longer than Grim. :rolleyes:😉 ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/19 "2011-05-06T11:30:51Z")
> [@Omniscient](#): > > Yes, I got the contacts but I also don’t have the country names. The province names are on the map here: [DP W1995A: Modern Times](http://www.diplom.org/Zine/W1995A/Mous/Modern.html) jDip only allows me to produce a map with abbreviations. I can extract the names from the .xml file to make a list - there doesn’t seem to be a comprehensive one online. I won’t be able to extract the names until this afternoon/evening at the earliest. Perhaps until then reference to the link above or abbreviations will be good enough for negotiations? ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/20 "2011-05-06T14:38:33Z")
But it would be helpful to have a list of which regions produce what type of army. For example, I can’t find anything that tells me what type of army Saudi Arabia produces. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770.md?page=2)