# SDMB Modern Diplomacy Game \*players only please\* **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [May 4, 2011, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770 "2011-05-04T23:20:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/201 "2011-07-18T19:49:46Z")
So… What’s going on with this? ---
**Author:** ![MrBroadside](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a3d4f5/32.png) [@MrBroadside](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrBroadside)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/202 "2011-07-18T22:31:47Z")
So whose orders are missing? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2011, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/203 "2011-07-18T23:23:33Z")
I appear to be the one holding things up. I wasn’t aware that the game had a new deadline and I never got updated maps with retreats. Since I’m the guy stuck on the bottom of everyone’s shoe I don’t suppose there’s much need to delay the game much longer. Once I get a updated map I’ll do my best to get orders in to move things along. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/204 "2011-07-19T00:02:27Z")
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14013747&postcount=186](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14013747&postcount=186) ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2011, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/205 "2011-07-19T07:00:50Z")
**Fall 1998 Update** Map Updated [Here](http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc316/ruaria/Diplomacy_modern/SDMBModern-F1998R.jpg) **Order Results (Short Format):** **Britain:** Britain: F bis Convoys A bor -\> por Britain: A bor -\> por Convoy path taken: bor→bis→mid→por. Britain: F mid Convoys A bor -\> por Britain: F nor Supports F nwg -\> nth Support cut by Move from Sweden. Britain: F nwg -\> nth Britain: A pic -\> bel Britain: F sog -\> gib **Egypt:** Egypt: F eme -\> lbn Egypt: F lbn -\> mal Egypt: F mal -\> tyr Egypt: F nap Supports F ion -\> apu Egypt: A rom Holds Egypt: F tun Supports F mal -\> tyr Egypt: A wsa -\> mor **France:** France: A auv -\> par Bounced with par (1 against 1). Dislodged from nav (2 against 1). France: F gol -\> mar France: A lyo Supports A auv -\> par Support cut by Move from Alsace. France: A mil -\> swi Bounced with swi (1 against 1). **Germany:** No order for unit at Denmark. Hold order assigned. No order for unit at Holland. Hold order assigned. Germany: F bhm -\> hel Germany: A als -\> lyo Bounced with lyo (1 against 1). Germany: A den Holds Germany: F hol Holds Germany: A par Supports A als -\> lyo Support cut by Move from Auvergne. Germany: A swi Supports A aus -\> mil Support failed. Supported unit’s order does not match support given. **Italy:** Italy: F apu -\> nap The Fleet in Apulia cannot retreat; unit destroyed. Bounced with nap (1 against 1). Dislodged from ion (2 against 1). Italy: A pie -\> mon Italy: F tyr -\> rom Bounced with rom (1 against 1). Dislodged from mal (2 against 1). Italy: A ven Supports F tyr -\> rom Support cut by Move from Adriatic Sea. **Poland:** Poland: A aus Holds Poland: A bie Holds Poland: A cze Supports A aus Poland: A est -\> stp Bounced with stp (3 against 4). Poland: F gob Supports A est -\> stp Poland: A kra Supports A bie Poland: A lat Supports A est -\> stp Poland: F swe -\> nor Bounced with nor (1 against 1). **Russia:** Russia: A fin Supports A stp Russia: A gor Supports A stp Russia: A mur Supports A stp Russia: F ska -\> swe Failed because Poland: F swe -\> nor failed. Russia: A stp Supports A fin Support cut by Move from Estonia. **Spain:** Spain: A bar Supports A nav -\> auv Spain: A mad Supports A bar Spain: A nav -\> auv **Turkey:** Turkey: F adr -\> ven Bounced with ven (1 against 1). Turkey: A ank -\> don Convoy path taken: ank→ebs→don. Turkey: A arm -\> geo Turkey: A bul -\> rum Turkey: A cro Supports A mil -\> aus Support failed. Supported unit’s order does not match support given. Turkey: F ebs Convoys A ank -\> don Turkey: F ion -\> apu Turkey: A rum -\> hun Turkey: A ser Supports A rum -\> hun Turkey: F wbs Supports A bul -\> rum **Ukraine:** No order for unit at Moscow. Hold order assigned. No order for unit at Sevastopol. Hold order assigned. Ukraine: A cen -\> kha Ukraine: A hun -\> rum Bounced with bul (1 against 1). Dislodged from rum (2 against 1). Ukraine: A kie Supports F sev Ukraine: A mos Holds Ukraine: A ode Supports F sev Ukraine: F sev Holds Ukraine: A vol -\> ros Retreats required for France: A Auv Italy: F Tyr Ukraine: A Hun **Can I get retreats by 8am BST London.** If there are any problems with any of your moves, please let me know. If there are any problems with anyone else’s moves, I suggest diplomatically discussing it with them. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/206 "2011-07-20T08:55:05Z")
Just waiting for one set of retreat orders. ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/207 "2011-07-20T18:11:29Z")
Winter 1988 comes to Europe [Latest Map here](http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc316/ruaria/Diplomacy_modern/SDMBModern-F1998B.jpg) **Retreats:** France: A auv -\> bor Italy: F tyr -\> lig Ukraine: A hun -\> pod **Builds:** Britain: Units that may be built: 1. Egypt: Units that may be built: 3. France: No Change Germany: Units that may be built: 2. Italy: Units that must be removed: 1. Poland: No Change Russia: Units that must be removed: 2. Spain: No Change Turkey: Units that may be built: 2. Ukraine: Units that must be removed: 1. Please pass all your builds and removes to **wevets**. I’ll let him set the deadline. Good Luck All. ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/208 "2011-07-21T12:35:58Z")
Thanks **CatInASuit**!! ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2011, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/209 "2011-07-21T13:45:57Z")
Thank you **CatInASuit** , you’ve done us all a great service! I’ll look at what we used to be doing for deadlines and set one tonight. Feel free to send build/disband orders as I mull over deadline options. It’s great to be back. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2011, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/210 "2011-07-23T14:27:22Z")
Map in Flickr [here](http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5967093024/in/photostream) Order Results: **Britain:** 8 supply centers Britain: Builds F London **Egypt:** 10 supply centers Egypt: Builds F Alexandria Egypt: Builds A Aswan Egypt: Builds A Cairo **France:** 4 supply centers **Germany:** 8 supply centers Germany: Builds F Hamburg Germany: Builds A Munich **Italy:** 2 supply centers Italy: Removes A Monaco **Poland:** 8 supply centers **Russia:** 3 supply centers Russia: Removes A Finland Russia: Removes F Skagerrak **Turkey:** 12 supply centers Turkey: Builds A Ankara Turkey: Builds A Istanbul **Ukraine:** 6 supply centers Ukraine: Removes A Podolia Next turn will be due: **10 PM PST Monday, June 25th (1 AM EST, 8 AM SAST on the 26th)** 33 Supply centers is the victory condition, since it looks like the game is moving towards the middle/ending phase. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/211 "2011-07-26T13:41:56Z")
Awaiting orders from Russia and Spain momentarily (already sent emails, so no need to send another) ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/212 "2011-07-26T15:19:17Z")
This is ridiculous. I vote we NMR if powers don’t feel like submitting orders on time. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/213 "2011-07-26T22:04:26Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > This is ridiculous. > > I vote we NMR if powers don’t feel like submitting orders on time. Two NMR on the same turn from powers that aren’t exactly dead yet would probably spell the end of the game. I’m willing to give them some more time, but I’m starting to see the handwriting on the wall here. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/214 "2011-07-27T01:04:40Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > Two NMR on the same turn from powers that aren’t exactly dead yet would probably spell the end of the game. I’m willing to give them some more time, but I’m starting to see the handwriting on the wall here. Russia and Spain are basically gone. I say if they don’t put in orders, just have Wevets enter support orders. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/215 "2011-07-27T01:21:10Z")
Got orders from Russia - that’s good enough. I have dinner with my brother, then I will come back and run the turn for you all. Cheers! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/216 "2011-07-27T03:13:21Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > Two NMR on the same turn from powers that aren’t exactly dead yet would probably spell the end of the game. I’m willing to give them some more time, but I’m starting to see the handwriting on the wall here. I’m really not concerned with who is doing it, just that it still continues to happen every single deadline. Frankly I think you have it, but I’m willing to play this out as long as it doesn’t take us 6 months to finish. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/217 "2011-07-27T05:36:11Z")
Spring 1999 Orders Results: Map in Flickr [here](http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5980045111/) **Britain:** Britain: F Bay of Biscay -\> Navarra Britain: A Belgium -\> Holland Bounced with Holland (1 against 1). Britain: F Gibraltar -\> Andalusia Britain: F London Supports F North Sea Britain: F Mid Atlantic Ocean -\> South Atlantic Ocean Britain: F North Sea Holds Britain: F Norway Supports F North Sea Britain: A Portugal -\> Madrid Bounced with Madrid (1 against 2). **Egypt:** No order for unit at Morroco. Hold order assigned. Egypt: F Alexandria -\> Libyan Sea Egypt: A Aswan -\> Eastern Sahara Egypt: A Cairo -\> Alexandria Egypt: F Libyan Sea -\> Maltese Sea Egypt: F Maltese Sea -\> Tyrrhenian Sea Egypt: A Morroco Holds Egypt: F Naples -\> Rome Egypt: A Rome -\> Venice Egypt: F Tunisia -\> Algeria Egypt: F Tyrrhenian Sea -\> Western Mediterranean **France:** France: A Bordeaux Supports F Bay of Biscay -\> Navarre France: A Lyon -\> Auvergne France: F Marseilles Supports A Lyon -\> Auvergne France: A Milan -\> Switzerland Bounced with Munich (1 against 1). **Germany:** No order for unit at Alsace. Hold order assigned. No order for unit at Denmark. Hold order assigned. No order for unit at Heligoland Bight. Hold order assigned. Germany: A Alsace Holds Germany: A Denmark Holds Germany: F Hamburg -\> Bornholm Sea Germany: F Heligoland Bight Holds Germany: F Holland Holds Germany: A Munich -\> Switzerland Bounced with Milan (1 against 1). Germany: A Paris Supports A Switzerland -\> Lyon Germany: A Switzerland -\> Lyon **Italy:** Italy: F Ligurian Sea -\> Monaco Italy: A Venice Holds Dislodged from Rome (3 against 1). **Poland:** Poland: A Austria -\> Croatia Bounced with Croatia (1 against 1). Dislodged from Hungary (2 against 1). Poland: A Bielorussia -\> Podolia Poland: A Czech Republic -\> Slovakia Poland: A Estonia -\> St-Petersburg Poland: F Gulf of Bothnia Supports A Estonia -\> St-Petersburg Poland: A Krakow Supports A Czech Republic -\> Slovakia Poland: A Latvia Supports A Estonia -\> St-Petersburg Poland: F Sweden -\> Finland **Russia:** The Army in St-Petersburg cannot retreat; unit destroyed. Russia: A Gorky Supports A St-Petersburg Support cut by Move from Moscow. Russia: A Murmansk Supports A St-Petersburg Russia: A St-Petersburg Holds Dislodged from Estonia (3 against 2). **Spain:** The Army in Auvergne cannot retreat; unit destroyed. No order for unit at Madrid. Hold order assigned. Spain: A Auvergne Supports A Barcelona Support cut by Move from Lyon. Dislodged from Lyon (2 against 1). Spain: A Barcelona Supports A Madrid Spain: A Madrid Holds **Turkey:** Turkey: F Adriatic Sea Supports A Rome -\> Venice Turkey: A Ankara -\> Rostov Convoy path taken: Ankara→Eastern Black Sea→Rostov. Turkey: F Apulia Supports A Rome -\> Venice Turkey: A Croatia Supports A Hungary -\> Austria Turkey: A Donbas -\> Sevastopol Failed because Ukraine: F Sevastopol -\> Eastern Black Sea failed. Dislodged from Kharkov (2 against 1). Turkey: F Eastern Black Sea Convoys A Ankara -\> Rostov Turkey: A Georgia Supports A Ankara -\> Rostov Turkey: A Hungary -\> Austria Turkey: A Istanbul -\> Odessa Convoy path taken: Istanbul→Western Black Sea→Odessa. Turkey: A Rumania Supports A Istanbul -\> Odessa Turkey: A Serbia -\> Hungary Turkey: F Western Black Sea Convoys A Istanbul -\> Odessa **Ukraine:** No order for unit at Rostov. Hold order assigned. Ukraine: A Kharkov -\> Donbas Ukraine: A Kiev Supports A Kharkov -\> Donbas Ukraine: A Moscow -\> Gorky Bounced with Gorky (1 against 1). Ukraine: A Odessa -\> Rumania Bounced with Rumania (1 against 1). Dislodged from Istanbul (2 against 1). Ukraine: A Rostov Holds Dislodged from Ankara (2 against 1). Ukraine: F Sevastopol -\> Eastern Black Sea Bounced with Eastern Black Sea (1 against 1). ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/218 "2011-07-27T05:38:47Z")
I’ll need retreat orders for: Ukrainian Armies in Rostov and Odessa Turkish Army in Donbas Italian Army Venice Polish Army Austria Let’s have those by 11 PM Pacific Time July 27th And from here on, I’ll enter defensive supporting orders for any power with 4 or fewer units if orders aren’t in by the deadline. That should speed things up. Bigger powers are out of luck if they go NMR. ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2011, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/219 "2011-07-27T12:43:04Z")
> [@wevets](#): > > And from here on, I’ll enter defensive supporting orders for any power with 4 or fewer units if orders aren’t in by the deadline. That should speed things up. Bigger powers are out of luck if they go NMR. Apologies for my part in the delay - I failed to enter the deadline into my calendar and was blissfully unaware that it had passed. Fortunately, it didn’t take me too long to decide what to do when wevets’ email arrived 😉 ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2011, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/220 "2011-07-28T06:19:35Z")
Map on Flickr [here:](http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5983934328/) Retreats: **Italy:** Italy: A Venice -\> Tuscany **Poland:** Poland: A Austria -\> Czech Republic **Turkey:** Turkey: A Donbas -\> Volga **Ukraine:** Ukraine: A Odessa -\> Moldavia Ukraine: A Rostov -\> Caucasus Fall 1999 Turn Due: July 31st 10 PM PST, Aug 1st 1 AM EST, 8 AM SAST:) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770.md?page=12)