# SDMB Modern Diplomacy Game \*players only please\*

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 4, 2011, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770 "2011-05-04T23:20:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/141 "2011-06-14T16:24:41Z")

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12 1/2 hours until the deadline! 🙂

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**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/142 "2011-06-14T18:16:01Z")

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I’m denied access to email at the moment - hopefully it will be back tomorrow so I can conclude negotiations, if not, I may have to beg for an extension…

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2011, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/143 "2011-06-14T19:06:07Z")

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Wait. We’re getting less than 24 hours to negotiate following builds? That’s not going to work. Half the players are 12 time zones apart, negotiations are slow going when that happens.

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2011, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/144 "2011-06-15T03:04:04Z")

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+24 hrs to the deadline. Now 26 hrs from this post. 🙂

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/145 "2011-06-16T06:08:54Z")

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[Map in Flickr](http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5838113027/)

Order Results:  
Britain:  
Britain: F Algeria Supports F Tunisia FAIL Support failed. Supported unit’s order does not match support given.  
Britain: A Belgium -\> Picardy  
Britain: F English Channel Convoys A London -\> Brittany  
Britain: F Irish Sea -\> Mid-Atlantic FAIL Bounced with mid (1 against 1).  
Britain: A London -\> Brittany Convoy path taken: lon→eng→bri.  
Britain: F North Sea -\> Norwegian Sea  
Britain: F Skaggerak -\> Sweden

Egypt:  
Egypt: A Alexandria -\> Apulia Convoy path taken: ale→lbn→ion→apu.  
Egypt: F E Sahara Supports A Libya  
Egypt: F Ionian Sea Convoys A Alexandria -\> Apulia  
Egypt: A Libya Holds  
Egypt: F Libyan Sea Convoys A Alexandria -\> Apulia  
Egypt: F Saudi Arabia -\> Red Sea

France:  
France: A Bordeaux -\> Navarre  
France: F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Marseilles -\> Auvergne  
France: A Lyon Supports A Marseilles -\> Auvergne  
France: A Madrid -\> Portugal FAIL Bounced with por (1 against 1).  
Dislodged from nav (2 against 1).  
France: A Marseilles -\> Auvergne  
France: F Mid-Atlantic Supports A Madrid -\> Portugal FAIL Support cut by Move from Irish Sea.  
France: A Switzerland Supports A Milan -\> Austria FAIL Support failed. Supported unit’s order does not match support given. Dislodged from mil (3 against 1).

Germany:  
Germany: F Berlin -\> Bornholm Sea FAIL Bounced with den (1 against 1).  
Germany: A Hamburg -\> Denmark FAIL Failed because Russia: F den -\> bhm failed.  
Germany: F Holland Holds  
Germany: A Munich Supports A Milan -\> Switzerland  
Germany: A Ruhr -\> Alsace

Italy:  
Italy: F Albania Supports A Bosnia -\> Serbia FAIL Support cut by Move from Greece.  
Italy: A Bosnia -\> Serbia FAIL Failed because Turkey: A ser -\> cro failed.  
Italy: A Croatia Supports A Bosnia -\> Serbia FAIL Support cut by Move from Hungary.  
Italy: F Maltese Sea -\> Naples  
Italy: A Milan -\> Switzerland  
Italy: F Tunisia -\> Maltese Sea

Poland:  
Poland: A Austria Supports A Milan -\> Switzerland  
Poland: A Belorussia Supports A Kharkov -\> Central Russian Plateau  
Poland: F Estonia -\> Gulf of Bothnia  
Poland: F Gdansk -\> Baltic Sea  
Poland: A Krakow Holds  
Poland: A Latvia -\> Estonia  
Poland: A Warsaw -\> Lithuania

Russia:  
Russia: A Central Russian Plateau -\> Moscow  
Russia: F Denmark -\> Bornholm Sea FAIL Bounced with ber (1 against 1).  
Russia: A Gorky Supports A Central Russian Plateau -\> Moscow  
Russia: A Moscow -\> St. Petersburg  
Russia: A Murmansk Supports A Moscow -\> St. Petersburg  
Russia: F W Black Sea -\> E Black Sea FAIL Bounced with geo (1 against 1).

Spain:  
Spain: A Andalucia -\> Seville  
Spain: F Barcelona -\> Auvergne FAIL Failed.  
Spain: A Navarre -\> Madrid  
Spain: A Portugal Supports A Navarre -\> Madrid

Turkey:  
Turkey: F Aegean Sea Supports F Ionian Sea  
Turkey: A Ankara -\> Istanbul  
Turkey: A Armenia -\> Ankara  
Turkey: A Bulgaria -\> Macedonia  
Turkey: F Georgia -\> E Black Sea FAIL Bounced with wbs (1 against 1).  
Turkey: F Greece -\> Albania FAIL Bounced with alb (1 against 1).  
Turkey: A Istanbul -\> Bulgaria  
Turkey: A Kazakhstan Supports A Volga  
Turkey: A Serbia -\> Croatia FAIL Bounced with hun (1 against 1).

Ukraine:  
Ukraine: A Hungary -\> Croatia FAIL Bounced with cro (1 against 1).  
Ukraine: A Kharkov -\> Central Russian Plateau  
Ukraine: A Kiev Supports A Kharkov -\> Central Russian Plateau  
Ukraine: F Odessa Holds  
Ukraine: A Rumania Supports A Serbia FAIL Support failed. Move orders must be supported explicitly.  
Ukraine: A Sevastopol Holds  
Ukraine: A Volga Supports A Kharkov -\> Central Russian Plateau

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/146 "2011-06-16T06:11:57Z")

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I need retreat orders from France for the armies in Madrid and Switzerland.

Please get retreats to me by June 16th, 12 midnight PST

Fall 1997 turn due by June 18th, 10 PM PST (1 AM EST on the 15th, 8 AM SAST on the 15th.)

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/147 "2011-06-16T13:22:27Z")

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That should read:

> [@wevets](#):
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> Fall 1997 turn due by June 18th, 10 PM PST (1 AM EST on the 19th, 8 AM SAST on the 19th.)

😉

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/148 "2011-06-16T16:54:18Z")

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Army Madrid Retreats to Andalucia  
Army Switzerland Retreats to Marseilles  
Map update will have to wait until after 6 PM PST today.  
\*\*Fall 1997 Orders due 10 PM PST June 18th, (1 AM EST, 8 AM SAST June 19th)  
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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2011, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/149 "2011-06-17T14:25:41Z")

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[Spring 1997 Post-Retreats Map](http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5841987541/in/photostream)

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/150 "2011-06-19T22:01:27Z")

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Fall 1997 now due 10 PM PST June 19th, 1 AM EST & 8 AM SAST on June 20th.

Hopefully everyone received the emails about extensions.

Happy Father’s Day everyone!🙂

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/151 "2011-06-20T05:04:06Z")

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One more set of orders to go…

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/152 "2011-06-20T05:58:59Z")

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> [@wevets](#):
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> One more set of orders to go…

Who’s missing?

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/153 "2011-06-20T14:23:40Z")

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The most recent email I have from our French player is the 16th… has anyone heard from him?

Unless there’s a compelling reason not to, I’ll run the turn at 12 noon Pacific time.

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/154 "2011-06-20T14:40:17Z")

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All players have submitted orders. Let’s see if I how much of this I can do before going to work.

Thanks everyone! 🙂

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/155 "2011-06-20T15:18:35Z")

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[Map in Flickr](http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5852732737/) a little smaller than usual 'cause I have little time before work.

Order Results:  
**Britain:**  
Britain: F Algeria -\> Straits of Gibraltar  
Britain: A Brittany Supports A Alsace -\> Paris  
Britain: F English Channel Supports F Irish Sea -\> Mid-Atlantic  
Britain: F Irish Sea -\> Mid-Atlantic  
Britain: F Norwegian Sea -\> North Atlantic  
Britain: A Picardy Supports A Alsace -\> Paris  
Britain: F Sweden Supports A Hamburg -\> Denmark FAIL Support cut by Move from Gulf of Bothnia. Dislodged from gob (2 against 1).

**Egypt:**  
Egypt: A Apulia Supports F Ionian Sea -\> Naples  
Egypt: F E Sahara -\> Libya  
Egypt: F Ionian -\> Naples  
Egypt: A Libya -\> W Sahara  
Egypt: F Libyan Sea -\> Maltese Sea FAIL Failed because Italy: F mal -\> ion failed.  
Egypt: F Red Sea -\> Cairo

**France:**  
France: A Andalucia -\> Barcelona  
France: A Auvergne -\> Bordeaux  
France: F Gulf of Lyon Supports A Andalucia -\> Barcelona  
France: A Lyon Supports A Marseilles -\> Switzerland  
France: A Marseilles -\> Switzerland  
France: F Mid-Atlantic -\> Portugal FAIL Bounced with por (1 against 1). Dislodged from iri (2 against 1).  
France: A Navarre -\> Madrid FAIL Bounced with mad (1 against 1).

**Germany:**  
Germany: A Alsace -\> Paris  
Germany: F Berlin -\> Bornholm Sea  
Germany: A Hamburg -\> Denmark FAIL Bounced with den (1 against 1).  
Germany: F Holland Holds  
Germany: A Munich -\> Alsace

**Italy:**  
Italy: F Albania -\> Adriatic Sea  
Italy: A Bosnia -\> Croatia FAIL Bounced with ser (1 against 1).  
Italy: A Croatia -\> Venice  
Italy: F Maltese Sea -\> Ionian Sea FAIL Bounced with aeg (1 against 1).  
Italy: F Naples Supports F Maltese Sea -\> Ionian Sea FAIL Dislodged from ion (2 against 1).  
Italy: A Switzerland -\> Marseilles FAIL Dislodged from mar (2 against 1).

**Poland:**  
Poland: A Austria Supports A Switzerland FAIL Support failed. Move orders must be supported explicitly.  
Poland: F Baltic Sea Supports F Gulf of Bothnia -\> Sweden  
Poland: A Belorussia Supports A Central Russian Plateau -\> Moscow  
Poland: A Estonia Supports A Lithuania -\> Latvia  
Poland: F Gulf of Bothnia -\> Sweden  
Poland: A Krakow Holds  
Poland: A Lithuania -\> Latvia

**Russia:**  
Russia: F Denmark Supports F Sweden FAIL Support cut by Move from Hamburg.  
Russia: A Gorky Supports A Moscow  
Russia: A Moscow Holds  
Russia: A Murmansk Supports A St. Petersburg  
Russia: A St. Petersburg Supports A Moscow  
Russia: F W Black Sea -\> Ankara FAIL Bounced with geo (1 against 1).

**Spain:**  
Spain: F Barcelona Holds FAIL Dislodged from and (2 against 1).  
Spain: A Madrid Supports F Barcelona FAIL Support cut by Move from Navarra.  
Spain: A Portugal Supports A Madrid FAIL Support cut by Move from Mid Atlantic Ocean.  
Spain: A Seville -\> Andalucia

**Turkey:**  
Turkey: F Aegean Sea -\> Ionian Sea FAIL Bounced with mal (1 against 1).  
Turkey: A Ankara -\> Istanbul  
Turkey: A Bulgaria -\> Serbia  
Turkey: F Georgia -\> Ankara FAIL Bounced with wbs (1 against 1).  
Turkey: F Greece -\> Albania  
Turkey: A Istanbul -\> Bulgaria  
Turkey: A Kazakhstan -\> Iran  
Turkey: A Macedonia Supports F Greece -\> Albania  
Turkey: A Serbia -\> Croatia

**Ukraine:**  
Ukraine: A Central Russian Plateau -\> Moscow FAIL Bounced with mos (3 against 3).  
Ukraine: A Hungary Supports A Serbia -\> Croatia  
Ukraine: A Kiev Holds  
Ukraine: F Odessa -\> W Black Sea FAIL Failed because Russia: F wbs -\> ank failed.  
Ukraine: A Rumania Supports A Bulgaria -\> Serbia  
Ukraine: A Sevastopol Holds  
Ukraine: A Volga Supports A Central Russian Plateau -\> Moscow

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/156 "2011-06-20T15:25:16Z")

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I need a retreat order for:

British fleet in Sweden  
French fleet in Mid-Atlantic  
Spanish fleet in Barcelona  
Italian fleet in Naples

Let’s get those by 10 PM PST Tuesday, June 21 (1 AM EST, 8 AM SAST on the 22nd)

Then builds can be due 10 PM PST Wednesday, June 22 (1 AM EST, 8 AM SAST on the 23rd)

Spring 1998 can be due… hm - let’s avoid the weekend, shall we? 10 PM PST Monday, June 27 (1 AM EST, 8 AM SAST on the 28th)

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2011, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/157 "2011-06-20T19:08:03Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Poland: A Austria Supports A Switzerland FAIL Support failed. Move orders must be supported explicitly.

Isn’t the order of the other unit implicitly assumed to be a hold in such a case? I’m guessing that Poland didn’t request a legality check…

EDIT: Nevermind, saw Italy tried to move said unit not hold it.

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/158 "2011-06-21T13:21:55Z")

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[Map in Flickr](http://www.flickr.com/photos/30973257@N03/5856180705/in/photostream)

Retreats:

Britain: F Sweden to Norway

Italy: A Switzerland to Milan  
Italy: F Naples to Rome

France: F Mid-Atlantic to South Atlantic

Spain: F Barcelona to Auvergne  
Builds:

Egypt can build 1 unit

France must remove 1 unit

Germany can build 1 unit

Italy must remove 2 units

Poland can build 1 unit

Russia must remove 1 unit

Turkey can build 1 unit  
I only got the last retreat order 2 hours ago, so let me know if you need more time for builds.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/159 "2011-06-21T14:23:28Z")

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But I don’t _want_ to remove any units. ☹

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2011, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-modern-diplomacy-game-players-only-please/580770/160 "2011-06-22T03:12:05Z")

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You could pretend they’re going to an alternate world, where that French fleet will be the only unit there and the greatest power in the universe.

You could also pretend Eric Flint-style that they were transported back to 1632…

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