# SDMB Newbie Diplomacy game

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 20, 2003, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873 "2003-01-20T22:44:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jessicala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb9ed0/32.png) [@jessicala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jessicala)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/201 "2003-02-11T03:44:04Z")

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Good thing you didn’t put Trieste 😉

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/202 "2003-02-11T09:27:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by JayLa \*  
> \*\*Good thing you didn’t put Trieste 😉 \*\*

Although who knows - give it a couple of turns and he may be able to.

Its a funny ol’ game… 🙂

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/203 "2003-02-11T11:54:57Z")

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> \*Originally posted by JayLa \*  
> \*\*Good thing you didn’t put Trieste 😉 \*\*

The way things are going, in a few rounds it could be a retirement villa in Geneve.

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/204 "2003-02-11T12:52:04Z")

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nah - you’ve got “tried and executed for war crimes” written all over you.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/205 "2003-02-11T13:22:29Z")

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Der Hague, then? Or Nuernberg?

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/206 "2003-02-11T13:25:30Z")

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whichever you prefer i’m not fussy!

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**Author:** ![ppg\_shg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f19dbf/32.png) [@ppg\_shg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ppg_shg)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/207 "2003-02-11T16:48:15Z")

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Well here’s some more thoughtless analysis. Countries ranked in alphabetical order –

Austria – First Italy moves to help you against Turkey, then he takes it away. Or did he really? I wonder. In any event, it never hurts to slug away at the Italians. They are always deserving. In the end, you best be making nice-nice with Russia.

England – A nice 2 build opening salvo, and sparing Russia from an early exit. Diplomacy from a position of strength.

France – Control of the Iberian. Italy turned to the east. A solid move to Bur, but is Eng friend or foe?

Germany – Why is Munich holding? No invites needed to get it on. Just letting France walz to Burgundy, no play for Trl? France can only go west for so long, and the so long has just run out.

Italy – You better get after Turkey. Only 1 superpower can control the Med, and Turkey has thrown his hat in the ring. Oh, but wait, is that the sound of ship building in Marseilles?

Russia – If you are holding, you are dying. Not even a bounce in Sweden? Get on with it man. At least with Rumania’s destruction you can fortify north or south, but you best be talking to Austria. You can’t take on all comers, you gotta have some love in the Balkans.

Turkey – Beware lead dog, eventually the pack catches up.

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/208 "2003-02-11T17:12:08Z")

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Little ol’ me? I’m harmless…

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**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/209 "2003-02-11T20:00:34Z")

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> Italy – You better get after Turkey. Only 1 superpower can control the Med, and Turkey has thrown his hat in the ring. Oh, but wait, is that the sound of ship building in Marseilles?

Wow. I stab Austria…Turkey has designs on the Mediterranean…France may move on my homeland?

My list of allies seems thin.

Oh well. At least I can count on England, right?

Am I right, folks? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/210 "2003-02-11T20:23:34Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by ShibbOleth \*  
\*\*Feh, I’ve been doing that since I was Turkey in my first full Dip. I actually vacillated between Constantinople and Istanbul back then… mainly because of They Might Be Giants.

That’s nobody’s business but the Turks’

TMBG put out a pretty good children’s album called ‘No’, including songs called No, Fibber Island and Robot’s Parade.

Where is the website for this game anyway?

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/211 "2003-02-11T20:54:08Z")

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The two minute armchair general in order of strength as I see it:

Turkey - Big dog indeed. Can you keep Austria and Italy fighting and take some of the spoils? Are they even actually fighting? Gotta decide where to turn next.

England - Well done with picking up two builds. You can now collect your Queen of the Seas award, and are safe from anything other than concerted F/G action. They should bothe want to be your friends.

Italy - Again with the two first year builds. Are you going to help save Austria’s ass, or take a bite out of it. Talk a lot with England and Russia. An army in Venice will be very versatile.

France - Christmas in Spain this year. Lovely weather. Burgundy is set to move into Italy, Germany or the Low Countries. Fleets would be nice, but can you afford them with Germany in Munich and England already on the continent?

Germany - Your ‘Piss Russia Off’ bounce certainly snowballed. Beware of England in Scandanavia and the Low Countries.

Austria - A single build in 1901 is not the end of the world. Italy and Turkey fighting over who gets the Budapest wishbone is. Make friends with somebody fast.

Russia - BoB holds? I assume your Northern Admiral is now piloting a garbage scow down the Volga. Too bad you had to occupy Sev with your army, as a fleet build down there would do wonders to keep Turkey busy. Make friends with Austria and Germany. Persuade Germany that stability in Scandanavia is better than having England take it all.

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**Author:** ![jessicala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb9ed0/32.png) [@jessicala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jessicala)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/212 "2003-02-11T20:59:15Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Abe Babe \*  
> \*\*Where is the website for this game anyway? \*\*

[http://users.rcn.com/ben.gabrielson/Diplomacy/1092\_GRY/](http://users.rcn.com/ben.gabrielson/Diplomacy/1092_GRY/)

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/213 "2003-02-11T22:07:06Z")

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Nice summaries, **McG (ppg\_shg)** and **Abe**. It’s good to see the big kids take an interest.  
BTW, there are a couple of my allies/enemies that I want to send some correspondence, but my Yahoo account acts a little strange during the day sometime. Watch your emails tonight.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/214 "2003-02-11T22:31:05Z")

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There’s sure a lot of heckling I’d like to do in the Mini-me game.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/215 "2003-02-11T22:33:26Z")

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I’m still waiting for that last build, hopefully I’ll be able to adjust the map tonite. Expect a delay in the deadline once I’ve gotten that final build.

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**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2003, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/216 "2003-02-11T22:40:35Z")

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Just an FYI to all…

I’m going to be in Boston from Thursday morn until Sunday night, during which time I will be unable to access el internet.

1. I’ll try to send my moves in tomorrow before I go to bed.

2. All Italian embassies will be closed. Meaning, no communications. So, if you want to contact Italy, don’t expect to do so when I’m away.

That is all.

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**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/217 "2003-02-12T07:43:12Z")

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I just got our missing build, and I’ll get the map and results mailed and up tonite. I’ve decided to delay the game until after the weekend, the specifics will be included in the email and on the web. Rest easy kids.

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**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/218 "2003-02-12T08:20:16Z")

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Feh.

I must admit, I’ve made some errors. Or have I? I guess we’ll just have to see.

Omni, I’m not sure what you mean. Does this mean the deadline is not Thursday?

Feh.

Russia has no friends.

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/219 "2003-02-12T10:18:54Z")

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I’m your friend.

Oh apart from that whole “war” thing. sorry 'bout that.

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**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2003, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/220 "2003-02-12T10:52:15Z")

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That’s ok.

Have I mentioned my hiring of a bunch of Australian mercenaries?

[/WWII joke]

Hmmm… anyone else care to contemplate an analysis? I’m pretty sure I’ve shot myself in the foot here, but I still have some options.

Note to self: This game does not allow anyone to be autonomous.

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