# SDMB Newbie Diplomacy game **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 20, 2003, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873 "2003-01-20T22:44:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2003, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/421 "2003-03-10T12:42:41Z")
So, when’s Winter adjudication, and, more importantly, when will Spring orders be due? ---
**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2003, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/422 "2003-03-10T12:53:16Z")
When our noble GM has the time presumably - probably my fault since i’ve only just got my disband in (had an emergency as work). Just because you are traitorous infidel scum doesn’t mean you can be impatient… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2003, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/423 "2003-03-10T13:45:04Z")
Ha! Pagan! 😉 (Hope everything’s okay at work… Tony Blair’s website get a DOS attack?) ---
**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2003, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/424 "2003-03-10T14:25:18Z")
nope: 1. otherDept with incompetent techies 2. bright idea about otherDept using an automatic query on myDept system 3. Something bearing a striking similarity to an [Alderson Loop](http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/a.html#Alderson_loop) Personally i think you may have planned it to distract me from my new dip situation. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/425 "2003-03-10T14:51:32Z")
Had no idea that there was a name for that. What an ignomious legacy young Alderson has left for himself. Of course when I was in University MSAccess hadn’t been invented yet (I think), so Mr. Alderson hadn’t had time to get his name in the textbooks. Around here we just call it “f\*cking up”. ---
**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2003, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/426 "2003-03-10T15:19:33Z")
Must admit it didn’t come up in my History degree either. God knows where i heard it but it stuck in my mind - and it has a jargon-file entry so it must be right… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2003, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/427 "2003-03-10T15:43:34Z")
Here’s my rough ranking of the powers: 1. **Austria** – 5 units pounding away at Turkey. Many options for the 2 builds. Forces are concentrated and working together. No second front. Good job, Shib! 2. **France** – 5 units split on 2 fronts. Nice job charging across the Rhine and into the Mediterranean. The builds will help to strengthen fronts or provide a home guard. But angering 3 people at once is not a good idea. 3. **England** – Forces are well concentrated. Could clear out Scandinavia or Germany soon, or could change directions. 4. **Turkey** – Forces are strung out; Italy’s Lepanto provides something else to worry about. It’ll be hard to finish off Russia without losing home centers. 5. **Italy** – The Lepanto comes a bit late, allowing France time to deploy a Mediterranean fleet. You’ve got two fronts to deal with. On the bright side: You’re not last! If you can hold off France long enough to gain some more builds, you’ll be well set. 6. **Germany** – Good news is that your forces are compact and can work together. Bad news is that you’re dropping to 2 units. Good news is that France’s stabs may be eir undoing. See **Jonmarzie** ’s assessment. 7. **Russia** – The northern fleets could yet link up. The southern army is little more than a bargaining chip right now. Regain a home center (there’s a few options to do this) and you might come back; people have been known to rally from this far back and win the game. Dip veterans, what do you think of my assessment? ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2003, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/428 "2003-03-10T16:00:12Z")
I like the Austrian bit! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2003, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/429 "2003-03-10T16:18:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ShibbOleth \* > \*\*I like the Austrian bit! 😉 \*\* I bloody don’t! seethe…seethe… ---
**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2003, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/430 "2003-03-10T18:32:46Z")
My good news is that I’m not last? I’ll join **garius** in seething… ---
**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2003, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/431 "2003-03-10T18:52:06Z")
tell you what **soup** , as my ally in seethiness how about we try one of those reverse lepanto things… oh. um. **Shibb** , would you mind pretending you didn’t hear that? ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2003, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/432 "2003-03-10T19:33:37Z")
The new map is out with adjustments. Webpage is updated, and the new deadlines are as such: Deadlines: Spring 1904: Wednesday, March 12th, 5PM Fall 1904: Saturday, March 15th, Noon Winter 1904: Sunday, March 16th, 5PM ---
**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/433 "2003-03-11T18:42:12Z")
I may be seething, **garius** , but not THAT seething. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/434 "2003-03-11T19:24:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by garius \* > \*\* > **Shibb** , would you mind pretending you didn’t hear that? \*\* Didn’t hear what? ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/435 "2003-03-11T19:48:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Soup\_du\_jour \* > \*\*My good news is that I’m not last? > \*\* Sorry, Il Supe, that came out wrong. I’ve done my research at the Dip Pouch. Italy has a bad habit of being left behind when the battles really get going. Italy often starts out slow; the question is how to speed things up. As I see it, your country has some good options for growth. The trick is to get those centers and have that growth. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2003, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/436 "2003-03-11T23:52:16Z")
If anyone wants to see a strange endgame, look [here](http://www.geocities.com/evandergeld/Pippinator.htm). I got it in a general Cat-23 email. A ring of Turks! ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/437 "2003-03-12T00:03:03Z")
Wow, if I’d known you could do that I would have never stabbed Turkey. **Garius** , will you have me back? ---
**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/438 "2003-03-12T04:01:28Z")
There’s the destinctive stench of the forging of knives this Spring. Ah, I love the smell! ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/439 "2003-03-12T07:07:33Z")
Knives? And here I was trying to outfit my troops with guns. Silly me. Hey, Turk, care to discuss Moscow again? ---
**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2003, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/440 "2003-03-12T12:51:59Z")
awwwwwww man, but i _like_ Moscow - it has really pretty buildings and everything. **Soup** He built a Fleet in Trieste and an Army in Vienna - what does **Shibb** have to do?? put a note through your frikkin’ door??? > [@](#): > > ADVANCED NOTICE OF INTENT TO STAB > > In recognition of your recent assistance in our expansionism, you have been selected to take part in our western territorial expansion plan. As part of this plan, an army will be visiting your province of Venice in Fall 1904 at 10:00am. If this time is inconvenient, then please call us on 1-800-STABBY where our trained operators will happily laugh in your face. > > In order to facilitate our operations, we would be grateful if you could blindly focus your efforts on the turk until its too late. This will ensure that our invasion is as swift and complete as possible. > > Franz Hoendorff > Department of Underhand Actions (DUA) And **Shibb** , its too late now, there’d be no trust in our relationship, and how can i be with you if i can’t trust you. Sorry but we both have to move on. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873.md?page=23)