# SDMB Newbie Diplomacy game

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 20, 2003, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873 "2003-01-20T22:44:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/121 "2003-02-04T20:46:54Z")

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**Abe, Shibb, Jonathon, White, ppg** , I’m heading up to the bar - any of you guys fancy a drink??

(this seems like one of those moments 🙂 )

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/122 "2003-02-04T20:51:24Z")

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Baby Sham for me.

[sub]I’m not sure if I spelled it right.[/sub]

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/123 "2003-02-04T20:55:55Z")

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Cool. Crisps?

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/124 "2003-02-04T21:06:42Z")

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Only if I can get the Shrimp flavor.

Yuck. Some of the crisp flavors over there sounded absolutely vile.

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/125 "2003-02-04T21:16:04Z")

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then allow me to treat you to a bag of pork scratchings instead… 🙂

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/126 "2003-02-04T21:18:04Z")

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Is that what’s referred to here as pork rinds or pork skins?

On the Atkins diet I have started, pork rinds figure prominently in the snacking arena.

My wife won’t give them to the kids because she doesn’t want them saying they want pork rinds when anybody can hear.

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/127 "2003-02-04T21:26:45Z")

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yeah i think they are pretty much the same thing. Must admit i’m addicted to them.

Fishy crispy snacks seem to be the latest fad though.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/128 "2003-02-04T21:38:22Z")

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Do you mean Pepperidge Farm Goldfish shaped crackers, or fish flavored crisps?

Ewwww.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/129 "2003-02-04T22:51:07Z")

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And I thought the 1046 hijack was bad, now they’re going on and on about crisps.

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**Author:** ![Royal\_Nonesuch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@Royal\_Nonesuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Royal_Nonesuch)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/130 "2003-02-04T23:05:50Z")

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Forgotten tastes of the 80’s… Humpty Dumpty Clam Chips… so foul-tasting… did it really taste that bad?..let’s try another…

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/131 "2003-02-04T23:11:23Z")

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**Shibb** , my man. don’t be such a grouch…

BARMAN! Pint of your finest for the archduke please. here - drink this. its on me.

and for the record they are some wierd kind of scampi flavoured corn snacks.

_shudders_

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/132 "2003-02-04T23:53:15Z")

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Well, if you’re buying then I can scarce resist, can I? Now remind me, who did you want me to invade? Anything for a decent pint.

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/133 "2003-02-05T00:47:24Z")

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heck. Buy me a pint of Dawg and you can see everybody’s orders early.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/134 "2003-02-05T00:47:44Z")

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Raspberry wine for me, please.

And some fancy cheese with butter crackers.

Snap to it.

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**Author:** ![ppg\_shg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f19dbf/32.png) [@ppg\_shg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ppg_shg)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/135 "2003-02-05T05:10:32Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by White Lightning \*  
> \*\*I hope nobody reads any implication here that I’m holding a grudge. After I was eliminated from 1046 (quite soon after, IIRC) I wrote **ppg\_shg** an email to let him know that nothing from that game would carry over once that game ended, and that there certainly were no enduring hard feelings.
> 
> Not that I’m exactly happy with his behavior so far in **Abe** ’s game. But that’s a matter for [another thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=145741&pagenumber=4).

I did not mean to give any impression otherwise. I was just referring to the lengthy press during the game, and WL has been more than courteous since demise in 1046.

From my perspective, the beginning game was a little skewed by the Black Hole of Germany. R/T launched the Juggernaut from the start to counteract what they believed to be a close alliance between Italy and Austria. That would have been nice, but Abe Babe was holding back and didn’t quite believe that R/T were in cahoots.

Subsequent to that I tried to recruit Germany into slowing Russia down and begged her to do certain things, and while she was agreeable, typically the orders actually sent were invalid. I believe after that R/E/F destroyed poor Germany rather than risk further uncertainty.

I’m not sure what happened to France. Had 8 and then R/I/E just gutted the poor guy. At the same time, Abe Babe did a nice diplomatic job of convincing WL to break from the Juggernaut (or at least that’s how I perceived it). At that point, I was down to one, but since WL had broken the Juggernaut he was now looking for allies against Russia. That allowed me to grab a lifeline.

After that, Shibb threw me another lifeline, and I basically rode that to the end. In the meantime, I was bad and attacked those who helped me most, Turkey, Italy, and then Russia.

I believe the ending to have been certain, but ultimately I did not feel that an Austrian “win” was the proper outcome. I felt Shibb did the masterful job in controlling the outcome of the game, and thus the vote for the DIAS.

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**Author:** ![ppg\_shg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f19dbf/32.png) [@ppg\_shg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ppg_shg)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/136 "2003-02-05T05:11:50Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by garius \*  
> \*\*enemies…everywhere…i…turn…
> 
> i’m going to go hide under the bed. \*\*

That’s where they look first.

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**Author:** ![ppg\_shg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f19dbf/32.png) [@ppg\_shg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ppg_shg)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/137 "2003-02-05T05:14:35Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Abe Babe \*  
> \*\*Is that what’s referred to here as pork rinds or pork skins?
> 
> On the Atkins diet I have started, pork rinds figure prominently in the snacking arena.
> 
> My wife won’t give them to the kids because she doesn’t want them saying they want pork rinds when anybody can hear. \*\*

First of all, snort.

Second of all, with the way you eat, your wife should be glad your kids ask for pork rinds.

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**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/138 "2003-02-05T06:56:32Z")

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_sigh_

To get this thread back on track…  
Does Russia have _ANY_ friends?

Hello?

Is this thing on?

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**Author:** ![garius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e19b73/32.png) [@garius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garius)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/139 "2003-02-05T11:06:47Z")

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**Tristan** - I’m your buddy!

um

would you mind spreading your shoulders a bit more? i can’t _quite_ get the knife in…

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**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2003, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-newbie-diplomacy-game/149873/140 "2003-02-05T14:57:37Z")

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**garius** , you gotta go to the kidneys. Less chance of deflecting the blow off a pesky bone that way.

A friend who doesn’t like PBEM Diplomacy (biolantis) likened being stabbed and dying away to being beat up in slow motion.

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