# SDMB NFL Pick 'em and Survival Leagues

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 9, 2004, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823 "2004-09-09T21:22:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2004, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/21 "2004-09-11T00:57:39Z")

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Nevermind, I’m in the survivor league only now.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2004, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/22 "2004-09-11T01:07:40Z")

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I have been uncharacteristically absent from the football threads because life has just been too damned hectic. Fortunately it doesn’t take much time to be in these kind of leagues, so I can at least keep my hand in. Thanks for putting this together, **SenorBeef**!

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2004, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/23 "2004-09-11T16:00:13Z")

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> [@neuroman](#):
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> All right, I joined up.
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> I have to say that the confidence points are too darn complicated. I actually tried to delete my team once I saw that but it wouldn’t let me.

Sorry to hear that. I still have a day to change the system around (I think), so if anyone else has strong opinions, go for it. I think the confidence thing will add some fun and a greater degree of personalization to the game, though - it’s really not complicated to set up the confidence picks, just a little more time consuming.

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2004, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/24 "2004-09-11T17:25:33Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Sorry to hear that. I still have a day to change the system around (I think), so if anyone else has strong opinions, go for it. I think the confidence thing will add some fun and a greater degree of personalization to the game, though - it’s really not complicated to set up the confidence picks, just a little more time consuming.

The time factor was the deciding factor for me - I’m already in seven other fantasy football leagues, and I could foresee much future aggravation trying to decide exactly which team merited my 11th best confidence bet.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2004, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/25 "2004-09-11T20:40:19Z")

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to get in the Pick 'Em League, perhaps. Here’s the error messages I got when I tried today:

> [@](#):
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> There was a temporary problem with the server. Please try again shortly. (Error #115)  
> • The password is incorrect. (Error #109)  
> • The group is full. (Error #107)  
> • This is not a private group. (Error #147)  
> • This group has already begun the season. You are unable to join this group at this time. (Error #134)

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2004, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/26 "2004-09-11T20:43:00Z")

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It let me in the Survival League, though. I hope I make it past the first week this time (stupid Houston!)

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2004, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/27 "2004-09-12T03:16:18Z")

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Weird. I think people were able to sign up after the ind-ne game, so I dunno why it’d stop now. Try it again maybe with a fresh browser, maybe there was some other strange error causing problems.

Can anyone else join now?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/28 "2004-11-06T01:42:20Z")

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Restarted the survival league.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/29 "2004-11-06T09:02:09Z")

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What do I get for winning the first half? 😛

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2004, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/30 "2004-11-06T22:27:46Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> What do I get for winning the first half? 😛

A virtual cookie?

Here.

_gives_.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/31 "2004-11-07T16:03:19Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Restarted the survival league.

Doesn’t seem to want to let me pick. Is the close out for Sunday?

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/32 "2004-11-07T17:44:31Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> Doesn’t seem to want to let me pick. Is the close out for Sunday?

Yeah, it seems that it is. Stupid, ain’t it?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2004, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/33 "2004-11-07T17:47:05Z")

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The deadline for whatever reason is like a day before the game rather than 5 minutes like fantasy football can be set up. This works out better anyway, it’ll give everyone enough time to make their picks next week instead of on short notice like this week.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/34 "2004-11-08T05:13:02Z")

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Fuckbeans. That’s twice in three weeks that I got eliminated by picking the Giants. I swear, it never pays to pick your own favorite team. :mad:

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2004, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/35 "2004-11-08T06:50:35Z")

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> [@Hal Briston](#):
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> Fuckbeans. That’s twice in three weeks that I got eliminated by picking the Giants. I swear, it never pays to pick your own favorite team. :mad:

This also applies to wagering. The theory (that works for me) is that you’re too emotionally attached.

Not only could your team lose, but you’d be out the money. Also, if you bet against the team and they win, you feel a little guilty. If you bet on the opponent and you win money, your team still lost.

Emotion will kill you more often than not.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/36 "2004-11-09T14:45:58Z")

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Reset again. This time people will have all week to make their picks.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/37 "2004-11-09T14:58:04Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Reset again. This time people will have all week to make their picks.

Ah, you must all contend with me again for, oh, a week or so, it seems. On average maybe half a week.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2004, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/38 "2004-11-09T15:03:25Z")

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Are we toggling back and forth between the SDMB Survival League and the Baltimore Penal League, or are these two entirely separate entities?

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2004, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/39 "2004-11-10T00:21:41Z")

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I’m not sure what the latter is, so they’re different.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2004, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/263823/40 "2004-11-10T12:04:48Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> I’m not sure what the latter is, so they’re different.

Twas another Survival league. Last week there were six people left. All but one picked the Giants; the other picked the Chefs. So it ended in a six week tie. Might explain why I didn’t find the league opened again. 🙂 Anyway, my pick is safely in for this weekend, but there are some tough matches out there. Only a couple of “gimmes” and I’m paranoid about those so went with something a little more esoteric.

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