# SDMB NFL Pick 'em and Survival leagues

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 8, 2007, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860 "2007-08-08T14:34:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 6

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2007, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/101 "2007-09-25T22:01:45Z")

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Top scores this week:

Straight up:  
14 Unskilled Hacks (Shibb) (nice)  
11 Blindfolded guesses(EsoEnigma), asterion, SeñorBeef’s Pain Train

Confidence:  
111 Shibb’s Unskilled Hacks  
106 Varlos – Makin’ It Rain  
105 asterion

Spread:  
9 Shibb’s Unskilled Hacks  
8 asterion, soulmurk’s Stinkers, Hal’s Rabid Ferrets

Top overall scores, unadjusted:

Straight up:  
35 Unskilled Hacks (Shibb)  
32 Fear the Turtle, meek reeks, SeñorBeef’s Pain Train, Blindfolded guesses(EsoEnigma)

Confidence:  
314 Varlos – Makin’ It Rain  
305 Hal’s Rabid Ferrets  
295 meeks eeks!

Spread:  
24 SenorBeef’s 0 trans fat picks, Hal’s Rabid Ferrets  
22 Shibb’s Unskilled Hacks, asterion

Survival elimination:  
DEN vs JAX - bearflag70

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2007, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/102 "2007-09-29T18:49:45Z")

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Still waiting on:

**SDMB Survival Football**  
SenorBeef  
Omni’s Crystal Balls  
Varlos & the Zzzzzzz’s  
Unskilled Hacks (Shibb)

**SDMB Pick 'em**  
Unskilled Hacks (Shibb)  
I like to do well  
Omni’s Crystal Balls  
Dob  
SeñorBeef’s Pain Train

**SDMB Pick 'em Confidence**  
Court Jesters  
Shibb’s Unskilled Hacks  
Varlos – Makin’ It Rain  
My dog picked these  
Omni’s Crystal Balls  
SenorBeef’s magic cheesecake

**SDMB Pick 'em Spread**  
Shibb’s Unskilled Hacks  
Court Jesters  
Varlos the DVOA Pimp  
Omni’s Crystal Balls  
SenorBeef’s 0 trans fat picks

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/103 "2007-09-30T03:57:20Z")

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How did you catch me on Pick 'em Spread and Pick 'em Confidence, yet miss out on Pick 'em. I did all three simultaneously this evening.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/104 "2007-09-30T14:43:29Z")

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Man, I am having a compulsion to pick a lot of upsets this weekend. Maybe it’s because of the college games yesterday. Somebody stop me.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2007, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/105 "2007-09-30T23:26:36Z")

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[QUOTE=ShibbOleth]  
Man, I am having a compulsion to pick a lot of upsets this weekend. Maybe it’s because of the college games yesterday. Somebody stop me.  
[/QUOTE]

Nevermind. Next time, someone encourage me.

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**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/106 "2007-10-01T00:40:45Z")

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Winning formula:

Take all my picks, then play the opposite of those picks.  
Trust me, you’ll have a great week.

:smack:

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/107 "2007-10-01T01:31:59Z")

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Don’t feel badly, there are some doing much worse than you are this weekend.

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**Author:** ![meek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@meek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meek)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/108 "2007-10-01T01:55:28Z")

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It was like watching a train wreck…

One pick after another crashing in a big steaming pile of crap.

I changed 4 picks at the last minute. All four WRONG. :smack:

The rest I already had wrong.

What a week.

I guess that makes Cincy a lock for Monday night, cuz I took N.E.  
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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2007, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/109 "2007-10-01T03:41:16Z")

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What’s interesting and frustrating about the Confidence game is that my picks are almost the same as Isotopes’ picks this week. The only difference in our straight up win-loss picks is that Isotopes picked Buf to beat NYJ and I did the opposite.

With only 1 game difference on the straight up picks, Isotopes currently has 43 points (Rank 8/22), while I have 30 points (Rank 20/22).

:smack:

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2007, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/110 "2007-10-02T20:00:19Z")

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Shibb’s reign of asskicking has begun.

Top 3 scores this week  
Straight up:  
11 Unskilled Hacks (Shibb)  
10 I like to do well  
9 SeñorBeef’s Pain Train

Confidence:  
91 Shibb’s Unskilled Hacks  
76 My dog picked these  
64 SenorBeef’s magic cheesecake

Spread:  
10 **Shibb’s Unskilled Hacks** , Varlos the DVOA Pimp  
9 SenorBeef’s 0 trans fat picks

Top 3 overall scores:

Straight up:  
46 Unskilled Hacks (Shibb)  
41 SeñorBeef’s Pain Train  
39 Blindfolded guesses(EsoEnigma), Hal’s Rabid Ferrets

Confidence:  
382 Shibb’s Unskilled Hacks  
360 Hal’s Rabid Ferrets  
359 Varlos – Makin’ It Rain

Spread:  
33 SenorBeef’s 0 trans fat picks  
32 Shibb’s Unskilled Hacks, Hal’s Rabid Ferrets

Survival eliminations:

SDG vs KAN: Mad The Swine, Omni’s Crystal Balls, Stuffy’s picks  
HOU vs ATL: asterion

10 out of 26 still surviving. Technically 28, but 2 of those teams never made a pick so I’m not counting them.

I removed Dob from the pick 'em league because he’s made 0 picks over 4 weeks. If he wants to start playing later in the season, as well as anyone else, feel free to join. You could still have fun and win individual weeks.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/111 "2007-10-03T09:51:32Z")

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So I found a page detailing the “experts” at ESPN predicting games, like in our straight up league.

> **[2023 NFL Expert Picks | ESPN](https://www.espn.com/nfl/picks?week=4&seasontype=2)**
>
> Visit ESPN to view NFL Expert Picks for the current week and season

So, guess who’s smarter, the paid airbags at ESPN, or SDMBers?

Top 5 ESPNers:

40 Schlereth  
37 Mortensen, Jaworski  
36 Wickersham  
35 “Accuscore” - what’s that, a computer prediction model?

SDMBers:  
46 Shibb  
41 Senorbeef  
39 EsotericEnigma  
38 “I like to do well”  
36 meek

Everyone in our top 5 is higher than their counterpart in ESPN’s top 5.

To be fair, we’re working with more people to select the top scores from, and Ron Jaworski doesn’t pick the Monday night games because he does the commentary.

In a semi-related note, props to Mortensen. In some preseason segment, he was asked about his “surprise fact” of the season. He said that the Cleveland Browns, 1-11 in divison games in the previous 2 years, were guaranteed locks to win 3 division games this year. After an embarassing failure against Pittsburgh, he stuck to his guns, and picked Cleveland against Cincinatti and Baltimore - the only one - and was right both times. Props.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/112 "2007-10-03T16:40:02Z")

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[QUOTE=SenorBeef]  
I removed Dob from the pick 'em league because he’s made 0 picks over 4 weeks. If he wants to start playing later in the season, as well as anyone else, feel free to join. You could still have fun and win individual weeks.  
[/QUOTE]  
Great. Before that, I was always guaranteed at least one score worse than mine. No more. :mad:

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2007, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/113 "2007-10-03T17:18:06Z")

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[QUOTE=D\_Odds]  
Great. Before that, I was always guaranteed at least one score worse than mine. No more. :mad:  
[/QUOTE]

Gimme a week…

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2007, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/114 "2007-10-06T23:28:27Z")

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Does anyone else think it’s totally wrong that Buffalo has the same spread (+10) vs Dallas as Tampa Bay has against a beat up Indy squad? I guess the swing due to home teams is 3 points in both cases, for 6 total.

Must be a lot of Chicago homer bettors for them to be only getting 3 at Green Bay.

And Tennessee is suddenly getting a little too much credit.

Saturday night reminder (including survival league):

Unskilled Hacks (Shibb)  
Court Jesters  
Omni’s Crystal Balls  
garygnu  
Deep Fried Demons  
Isotopes  
Varlos – Makin’ It Rain  
Mad The Swine

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/115 "2007-10-07T16:29:48Z")

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Varlos you forgot your survival pick.

Garygnu also has picks in multiple leagues.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2007, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/116 "2007-10-07T16:33:44Z")

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Good luck today, everyone. I’m not feeling the huge upset love this week, although I think that there a few out there.

Also, FWIW, Tampa Bay is a ten point dog because they lost their star RB and their veteran left tackle for the season. I think Indy will win, but not by 10 (although my spread picks are as weak as it gets, so take that with a grain of salt). And if Tampa Bay wins of course I’m happy.

Shibb in Tampa

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**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2007, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/117 "2007-10-08T14:32:37Z")

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I liked this week much better than last week’s Crap-on-a-Stick Picks™!

Last second field goal by Carolina: :smack:

Last second field goal by Houston: 😃

I would have sworn this was Seattle’s week, too :mad:

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/118 "2007-10-09T15:14:02Z")

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Finally a good week for me. I even had the top score in my fantasy league this week. Picking up the Houston kicker to cover a bye week turned out pretty well :D.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2007, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/119 "2007-10-10T00:24:28Z")

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Top scores this week:

Straight up:  
12 **borschevsky** , Blindfolded guesses(EsoEnigma)  
11 labtrash, Fear the Turtle

Confidence:  
96 **borschevsky** , Checkered Demon  
95 Varlos – Makin’ It Rain

Spread:  
9 NurseCarmen  
7 borschevsky, Mad The Swine, Blindfolded guesses(EsoEnigma), Varlos the DVOA Pimp

Top overall unadjusted scores:

Straight up:  
52 Unskilled Hacks (Shibb)  
51 Blindfolded guesses(EsoEnigma)  
50 SeñorBeef’s Pain Train

Confidence:  
454 Varlos – Makin’ It Rain  
447 Hal’s Rabid Ferrets  
437 Checkered Demon

Spread:  
39 SenorBeef’s 0 trans fat picks  
37 Varlos the DVOA Pimp, Hal’s Rabid Ferrets

Survival eliminations:

Varlos with no pick.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2007, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-and-survival-leagues/414860/120 "2007-10-14T03:52:23Z")

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Reminder:  
Unskilled Hacks (Shibb) (also survival)  
Omni’s Crystal Balls  
Varlos – Makin’ It Rain  
Kiros (survival)

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