# SDMB NFL Pick 'em, Survival, and Salary Cap 2010

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 18, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600 "2010-08-18T03:40:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/61 "2010-11-07T23:25:52Z")

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These last 2 weeks have been a little ridiculous in the survival league. 🙂

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2010, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/62 "2010-11-07T23:29:48Z")

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Yeah… I was so worried about the damn Vikes… they finally won, and then it looked like the Jets were gonna lose - which would be great for me since it would’ve got rid of half the remaining players - but it turns out everyone wins. Bah.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/63 "2010-11-09T15:21:49Z")

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NOTICE: Thursday night football starts this week, so picks are going to have to be made early from here on out. Kickoff is 8:20 Eastern. A mass PM reminder might not be a bad idea.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/64 "2010-11-09T19:28:28Z")

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Will do. I set it up so that the survival picks still aren’t due until 1pm ET Sunday. I didn’t want anyone to forget the Thursday night game and get booted from the contest.  
Incidentally, I don’t know if anyone believes me, but I wanted to pick the Browns against the last two matchups (NO, NE) that they won and almost did. Every time I pick the Browns to win a game they’re a strong dog in, I think “ok, you’re just being a homer, don’t do it”… the best I’ll do is take what the average person thinks is a 12 point confidence game and knock it down to 7 or 8. Maybe I should go with my gut. At least I picked them against the spread.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/65 "2010-11-10T17:45:44Z")

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Nine games this week with a spread of three points or less. Yee. Ouch. Gonna be a tough one…

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2010, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/66 "2010-11-11T20:33:05Z")

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I sent out a batch of reminders for tonight’s game. Couldn’t get a PM to stuffy (turned off) or roosh (forget the SDMB name). You only have to pick tonight’s game for now, you can do the rest of them before the weekend. Survival can be picked anytime before Sunday at 1pm.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/67 "2010-11-12T00:59:10Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Will do. I set it up so that the survival picks still aren’t due until 1pm ET Sunday. I didn’t want anyone to forget the Thursday night game and get booted from the contest.  
> Incidentally, I don’t know if anyone believes me, but I wanted to pick the Browns against the last two matchups (NO, NE) that they won and almost did. Every time I pick the Browns to win a game they’re a strong dog in, I think “ok, you’re just being a homer, don’t do it”… the best I’ll do is take what the average person thinks is a 12 point confidence game and knock it down to 7 or 8. Maybe I should go with my gut. At least I picked them against the spread.

FWIW, (assuming I’m doing the calcs correctly) DVOA has them beating the Jets outright this week.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2010, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/68 "2010-11-12T01:32:21Z")

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> [@Gray\_Ghost](#):
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> FWIW, (assuming I’m doing the calcs correctly) DVOA has them beating the Jets outright this week.

Well, yes and no. Their DVOA ratings are very close, and Cleveland is \*well \*within the margin granted by home field advantage. Cleveland actually has a \*better \*Weighted DVOA (9.0 to 8.9, but still).

On the other hand, in FO’s picks against the spread and confidence points picks available to subscribers, they have the Jets winning outright (3 confidence points), and Cleveland as the pick against the spread, but as a “stay away” game. Despite being involved in the early stages of setting up FO’s spread picks system[/bragging], I’m not sure what other factors they’re throwing in, and don’t care to speculate.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 14, 2010, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/69 "2010-11-14T22:16:36Z")

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I think the Giants will pull it out, but Varlos has to be nervous.

Edit: And St. Louis just scored a TD, so Gray Ghost too.

You guys make up half of the remaining perfect survivors.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/70 "2010-11-15T01:05:20Z")

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Varlos is our lone strike this week. We’re down to 3 people with perfect records.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/71 "2010-11-16T12:52:15Z")

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So this week is pretty tough.

My options are:

Cowboys over Lions  
Jets over Texans  
Falcons over Rams  
SF over TB  
Chargers over Broncos

and of course some other options that I like even less.

I don’t like a single game this week

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/72 "2010-11-16T16:32:39Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> So this week is pretty tough.
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> My options are:
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> Cowboys over Lions  
> Jets over Texans  
> Falcons over Rams  
> SF over TB  
> Chargers over Broncos
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> and of course some other options that I like even less.
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> I don’t like a single game this week

How is the answer to your dilemma not taking the Jets? Texans are going on the road, to a physical defense, and benign weather (so Sanchez will be able to do most of what he wants to do.) True, the Jets can be really inconsistent this year, and the Texans might bounce back emotionally after that loss, but I see the Jets just running away with this one.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/73 "2010-11-18T21:05:57Z")

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Don’t forget picking the Thursday night games. I’m not gonna send out a PM reminder cause it’s not a big deal if you miss one game, but I figured I’d remind everyone in the thread.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2010, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/74 "2010-11-18T21:48:22Z")

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It’s amazing – every week I send out a bunch of reminders to everyone in the pool I run, yet I never seem to clue in to the fact that I should probably put _my_ picks in to other pools.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/75 "2010-11-19T12:32:48Z")

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Apropos of nothing, I sat next to Herm Edwards on the flight I just came in on. Didn’t talk to him or anything - he exuded “Leave me alone”. Anyway, I doubt he could have helped me with my picks.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2010, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/76 "2010-11-19T20:59:17Z")

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There seems to be a display bug at Yahoo showing the survival league status. From what I can tell from their message boards, it’s affecting a bunch of leagues (and other sports) and not just us.

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/77 "2010-11-20T16:06:21Z")

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Yahoo seems to be having an issue this morning - unable to save my Confidence Pick’em picks. Fingers crossed they’ll get the issue corrected

Chk Demon

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**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/78 "2010-11-20T17:32:14Z")

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> [@flickster](#):
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> Yahoo seems to be having an issue this morning - unable to save my Confidence Pick’em picks. Fingers crossed they’ll get the issue corrected
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> Chk Demon

Update - have been able to save picks, but not assign confidence points

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2010, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/79 "2010-11-21T12:26:55Z")

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I narrowed down my survival choices to San Diego vs Denver and Dallas vs Detroit and I really don’t like either of those games.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/80 "2010-11-21T20:34:27Z")

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You guys who picked Cinci must have been feeling pretty good when they were up by 28.

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