# SDMB NFL Pick 'em, Survival, and Salary Cap 2010

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [August 18, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600 "2010-08-18T03:40:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2010, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/101 "2010-12-06T10:25:40Z")

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I wonder if any of us can make it out of the year as a perfect survivor. I’ve got a shot - I have a few good teams saved up.

It’s Gray Ghost, Borchevsky, and I who have the shot at it. It was the three of us (plus Cyberhwk) who survived last year too - but not as perfect survivors, we all had one strike. Isotopes and I lasted until week 15 before our first strike, and Ghost lost it on 17.

[(Last year’s results)](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11952367&postcount=126)

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/102 "2010-12-10T04:40:42Z")

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That Indy game is a perfect example of why I don’t bet against the spread.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/103 "2010-12-11T20:20:42Z")

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I may not get a chance tonight to send out a PM reminding everyone who hasn’t picked yet to get their picks in, so I’ll just yell at everyone now.

PICKS!

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/104 "2010-12-13T01:13:26Z")

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Fighting Borchevskies goes down with his first strike after he picked the Jets.

That leaves Ghost and I as perfect survivors.

I got a 3 this week in spread pick em so far.

A 3.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/105 "2010-12-13T22:36:41Z")

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That Bucs game is a perfect example of why I don’t bet against the spread.  
Somehow I completely spaced on the fact that I still have Indy to use in survival. I don’t know if I would have ended up using them (I did give NYJ more confidence points) but I can say that I was not filled with confidence picking the Jets. Oh well.

And it has seemed like a bit of a weird week with spreads. Tennessee’s endgame strategy looked like it was designed to lose the game but still cover, the Washington missed XP made the Bucs win but not cover 2 points, and the Philly game ended with them in scoring position needing just one more point to cover. Plus, who ever heard of Carson Palmer throwing a pick 6? 😃

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2010, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/106 "2010-12-16T12:28:56Z")

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Well, my only real survival choices this week are Oakland vs Denver and Miami vs the Bills. I don’t like either. Oakland seems like a pretty good pick with Denver in disarray, but they’re due for their “wtf? Denver scored 50 points?” game. Denver has been pretty unpredictable although I guess with the interim coach/team shutting down thing it’s a pretty solid pick.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2010, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/107 "2010-12-17T02:54:53Z")

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So about 3 hours ago I was thinking “woops, I forgot to make my Thursday night picks. I should remind everyone to do it in the thread too. But first let me go grab something to eat…” and guess what never got done.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/108 "2010-12-21T19:00:18Z")

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So we’re down to 8230 out of the original ~270k players in yahoo survival, and still 2 in our league.

Isotopes/Petey was eliminated due Miami, and Omni didn’t make a pick.

That leaves Ghost and I as perfect, and Borchevsky and Varlos as 1 strikers.

I’ve got a real shot at surviving this season, the first time we’ve had that.

I can use Dallas against Ari, Jacksonville against Washington, Miami against Detroit, NYG against Washington, NYJ vs buf, Phi against Minessota, lots of good options.

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/109 "2010-12-26T21:34:49Z")

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Somehow I hit all 7 early games against the spread and still managed to miss my survival pick 🙂

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/110 "2010-12-29T02:56:03Z")

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And here I thought Philly against Joe Webb was going to be a pretty safe pick…

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/111 "2010-12-29T04:25:40Z")

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Dear Lord; how the hell does that happen? Can’t remember another season where two 14+ point favorites have crapped the bed, the way the Giants and Eagles have done this year.

Oh, and all of the “Michael Vick for MVP” talk can stop right now, thanks.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/112 "2010-12-29T06:27:05Z")

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I can’t believe I made it so close to a perfect season and it was derailed by fucking Joe Webb.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2010, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/113 "2010-12-29T10:33:33Z")

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77% of the remaining survivors were eliminated this week… tough week. Only 750 people still perfect out of the original 270k.

Ghost and I were among the last 3300 or so.

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**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/114 "2011-01-02T19:27:06Z")

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Oh, fuck! I was right fucking there in both the spread and confidence leagues (\*and \*the yardage leage), and then I fucking overslept today without making my picks. I got up at 11:15, and I had an alarm set for 11:30, so I just decided to rest my eyes until my phone went off. Then next thing I know it’s 1:54 and I’m still lying on the couch. Honestly, I blame drugs: smoked a little bit of pot last night for the first time in like a year, and it’s always led to an unusually heavy sleep for me. If we only got the word out to kids about the potential fantasy/pick’em implications of drug abuse, I’m sure we could do a lot of good.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/115 "2011-01-02T19:48:58Z")

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Looking at the picks, you’re not the only one that decided to omit the morning games, Varlos. One of the reasons I try to get them in on Wed or so, because I know I’ll space, and forget to do it on the weekend.

Sucks. I was looking forward to trying to honestly make up some of the ground on you in the Confidence league—the spread league is a lost cause for me.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/116 "2011-01-04T10:01:53Z")

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Don’t forget that this year yahoo enabled pick 'em and survival through the playoffs this year, so get your picks in this week.

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2011, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/117 "2011-01-04T11:03:32Z")

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I guess there is no chance of ending it here after the normal weeks then? 🙂

I really don’t want to end up 5th for the third year in a row.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/118 "2011-01-05T10:52:56Z")

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I’m not sure if yahoo considers the postseason stuff an extension of the regular season, but I’ll list the end of season results here.

Through the regular season. Scores are with worst week dropped. Unpicked games are counted as losses - not sure if there’s a way to get the actual picked record ignoring unpicked games.

Pick 'em:

1 Selhurst Blues 158-82  
2 Isotopes 156-86  
3 SenorBeef’s combo platter 155-87  
4 soulmurkian sisboombah 155-88  
5 ICU812 153-87  
6 Hal’s Rabid Ferrets 153-89  
7 Fighting Borschevskys 153-89  
8 Fear the Turtle 151-91  
9 Nuveena 148-94  
10 A Spoonful of Awesome 148-94  
11 MadTheSwine 145-97  
12 Jules’ Haruspicy Experiment 144-96  
13 Unwashed Brain 143-99  
14 Shibb’s Unskilled Hacks 136-106  
15 Justin Bailey’s Supremo Picks 136-104  
16 The Gnu Gnoze 135-105  
17 NurseCarmensPicksOfDOOM 133-107  
18 Mullinator 121-119  
19 asterion 118-122  
20 Cyberhwk Can’t Think of a Name 117-123  
21 The Omniscient One 116-124  
22 Court Jesters 114-126  
23 Stuffy’s Stupendous Picks 80-160  
24 Roland’s Intrepid Squid 55-185

Spread:  
1 soulmurkian sisboombah 133-102  
2 Fighting Borschevskys 132-104  
3 If VarlosZ Were a Horse 127-106  
4 ICU812 126-107  
5 Frosty’s Picks 125-108  
6 Fear the Turtle 123-110  
7 Isotopes 121-112  
8 Ghost’s Boasts 120-116  
9 Shibb’s Unskilled Hacks 116-119  
10 SenorBeef’s Death Waffle 116-117  
11 MadTheSwine 115-121  
12 The Gnu Gnoze 113-120  
13 bossofbosses 110-123  
14 The Omniscient One 99-134  
15 asterion 98-135  
16 Mullinator 2 - Boogaloo 96-137  
17 Court Jesters 95-138  
18 Jules’ Haruspicy Experiment 94-139

Confidence:  
1 Ghost’s Boasts 1358 150-92  
2 Fear the Turtle 1358 149-93  
3 SenorBeef’s Slurpee Run 1355 154-88  
4 soulmurkian sisboombah 1354 156-87  
5 Fighting Borschevskys 1345 153-89  
6 Chk Demon 1340 159-83  
7 A Confederacy of Varlos 1332 151-91  
8 Roosh’s Tribe 1328 153-89  
9 Isotopes 1300 156-86  
10 ICU812 1289 146-96  
11 A Spoonful of Awesome 1287 144-98  
12 NurseCarmenPicksOfDOOM 1255 133-107  
13 MadTheSwine 1247 143-99  
14 Jules’ Haruspicy Experiment 1243 145-95  
15 Shibb’s Unskilled Hacks 1208 136-106  
16 The Gnu Gnoze 1183 135-105  
17 Funky Ninja 1060 120-120  
18 The Omniscient One 1020 115-125  
19 asterion 1008 118-122  
20 Court Jesters 978 114-126  
21 Taber 643 81-159  
22 Liquored-up Idiot Picker 412 53-187

Survival:

Ghost and I tied as the only survivors, both getting our only strike in week 16.

Everyone else will be listed in order of elimination - ties going to the person with the latest first strike. Weeks of strikes in parenthesis

1. (16)  
Ghost’s Boasts  
SenorBeef

2. Fighting Borchevsky’s (14, 16)

3. Varlos and the Pussycats (10, 16)

4. Isotopes (7, 15)

5. Omni’s Immortals (1, 15)

6. (5, 11)  
Chk Demon  
MadTheSwine  
Taber

7. The Gnu Gnoze (5, 8)

8. (5, 7)  
asterion  
ToeJam’s FunkyFreshPicks

9. Selhurst Blues (4, 7)

10. Fear the Turtle (1, 7)

11. Court Jesters (5, 6)

12. Cyberhwk Can’t Think of a Name (4, 6)

13. (2, 5)  
Hal’s Surviving Ferrets  
Shibb’s Unskilled Hacks  
Unwashed Brain

14. (1, 5)  
A thousand paper cuts  
Frosty’s Survival Set

15. NurseCarmensPicksOfDOOM (2, 3)

16. soulmurkian sisboombah (1, 3)

17. bearflag70 (1, 2)

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/119 "2011-01-06T10:57:11Z")

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If you guys want to get into any playoff related contests, there’s the [playoff prediction contest](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=591603) and the [fantasy playoffs challenge](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=591916).

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**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2010/550600/120 "2011-01-06T14:28:59Z")

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I think the yahoo pick’em does continue on for the postseason, but doesn’t count towards points dropped as you can only get a max of 4 points in the first week.

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