# SDMB NFL Pick 'em, Survival, and Salary Cap 2013 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 11, 2013, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972 "2013-08-11T22:19:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2013, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/1 "2013-08-11T22:19:15Z")
Everyone is welcome to join any of these leagues. There aren’t a set number of teams nor does it hurt anyone should you drop out, so if you’re new to this give it a try. There was a glitch with yahoo this year when I was recreating the leagues. I’m not sure if the invites went out properly, and it created two copies of the pick 'em league, so you may have gotten an invite to a league that I deleted. So I don’t know if you’ll get invites through the normal e-mail channels, you may just need to manually rejoin. Pick 'em: In NFL Pick 'em leagues, each player predicts the outcome of every NFL game. There are three different types, and we run all three. You can join any or all of them. Straight up: You simply pick the winner of each game, and get a point if correct. Spread: A spread is determined for a game (like with sports betting), where one team has a certain amount of points given to them, and you have to pick the game with that adjustment taken into account. Confidence: The most complex one, but in my view also the most fun. There are no spreads, so you pick the winner straight up. But you get a confidence value you can assign to every game, 1 through the number of games being played that weekend, and can only use each number once. So if there are 16 games that weekend, you’ll assign the confidence number 16 to the game where the outcome seems most clear to you, 15 for the next one, all the way down to 1 for the one you’re least sure of. If you pick correctly, the confidence value of your pick is added to your weekly score. If you only play one league, I suggest the confidence league. Survival: Each player picks one team that has to win each week. If your picked team fails to win, you get a strike. You can only use each team once. Using two strikes before you’re eliminated last year seemed to work well, so I think we’ll go for that again this year. These leagues can hold up to 50 players each, so we’re not really at risk for filling up, and you’re competing against the whole league, not one other team per week like fantasy football, so it’s not a big deal if you end up dropping out. I’d like for everyone to play all the way through the season, but it won’t hurt anyone if you don’t, so feel free to sign up if you’re only a little interested. Salary Cap: The scoring works like fantasy football, but the way the game works is different. There are not a limited number of teams because teams do not exclusively own players like in traditional fantasy football. Which means, like pick 'em and survival leagues, the more the merrier. How it works is that based on past and projected performance, each player in the NFL is assigned a salary. When you add someone to your team, you buy them at this salary. As their performance changes, their price can go up or down - in the event that it goes up, you can retain them at the price you originally bought them for - and if it goes down you can recover the money. You have a limited amount of cap space to work with, so if you sign Adrian Peterson, he’s going to cost enough that you’ll have to go for some cheap players at other positions. In effect, you’re trying to get the most value of your players rather than necesarily having the best in raw production at any given position. You can find sleepers who you feel are about to break out and buy them up early for cheap, benefiting from their later better performance for the same price, or you can switch out your players every week based on who you feel has the most favorable matchup relative to their cost, or any combination of strategies. The scoring rules and roster positions of the league are fixed, and salary updates are automatically provided weekly. There’s no head to head format, the winner is the person who scores the most overall points. I would suggest using a name in these leagues that either includes your SDMB name or makes reference to your SDMB name so we know who everyone is. You should be able to get to the signup page for all the leagues here. The password for all groups is “cecil”. The group numbers are: Pick 'em: 18348 Confidence: 18350 Spread: 18483 Survival: 6926 Salary cap isn’t open yet oddly enough, I’ll post when it is. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2013, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/2 "2013-08-11T22:22:12Z")
Like a Tebow pass, this one missed the target (forum). I reported it for a move. And I’ll be signing up soon. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2013, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/3 "2013-08-11T22:30:35Z")
Woops, sorry, I’ll get that taken care of. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2013, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/4 "2013-08-11T22:57:15Z")
Moved Cafe Society --\> the Game Room. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2013, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/5 "2013-08-12T00:09:36Z")
All y’all better watch out. I’m planning to repeat in Salary Cap this year. And of course I’m in. I can’t believe that I’m in NY and am probably going to get close to a dozen Broncos games. That’s a schedule I can live with. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2013, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/6 "2013-08-12T00:53:26Z")
I got the invite for Survival. Didn’t see any others. I’ll check again tomorrow, or sign up manually. As for Survival, I’m hoping for some redemption. Last year I got eliminated after week one, and again after the first week of the re-start. In Salary Cap, I’m pretty much a lock for League Doormat. Maybe I can manage to be semi-competitive in Confidence Pick’Em… ---
**Author:** ![MadTheSwine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MadTheSwine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MadTheSwine)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/7 "2013-08-13T17:56:46Z")
Joined everything but salary cap. Has the Superbowl prediction thread been started? ---
**Author:** ![CatInASuit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3be4f8/32.png) [@CatInASuit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CatInASuit)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/8 "2013-08-15T17:00:07Z")
I’m hoping that if I join more leagues I’ll have a better chance of winning… I’ll be waiting for the Salary Cap as well. ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/9 "2013-08-15T17:29:58Z")
Doesn’t look like Salary Cap is coming back this year: [http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/salcap](http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com/salcap) ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/10 "2013-08-15T22:12:38Z")
Well, shoot. I don’t have the patience for full-blown fantasy football, so I’m definitely going to miss the salary cap league. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2013, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/11 "2013-08-15T23:27:01Z")
I joined Confidence Pick’Em today. Anybody know why Salary Cap was cancelled? ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/12 "2013-08-18T20:03:50Z")
Survival doesn’t seem to go with the password cecil or is it just me? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/13 "2013-08-20T21:33:59Z")
I reset the password to cecil, so it should work. Try again? Make sure it’s all lowercase. We have nowhere near the normal number of people signing up this year, which I suspect is due to the way yahoo flaked out when I formed the leagues and it botched the invites. There’s no way for me to do another mass invite to past players, so I’m just gonna have to send out a lot of PMs. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2013, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/14 "2013-08-20T21:51:18Z")
Is there some way to get a list of participants in previous years’ pick em and survival leagues? There doesn’t seem to be a league history page like there is in fantasy leagues, and if you go to your own fantasy profile, you can see what place you finished in, but there’s no link to see who was in the league. So I sent out about 20 PMs from memory, but I’d like to find a way to make an official list. ---
**Author:** ![Frosted\_Glass](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frosted_glass/32/3926_2.png) [@Frosted\_Glass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frosted_Glass)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/15 "2013-08-21T16:40:17Z")
Thanks for the invite **Beef**. Signed up for all four! ---
**Author:** ![flickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7bcc69/32.png) [@flickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flickster)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2013, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/16 "2013-08-22T04:51:24Z")
I’m in: Survival Confidence Received the invite for the Survival, came here and got the rest Thanks for putting it all together again! ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2013, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/17 "2013-08-25T14:23:32Z")
I sent out like 25 invites to the various leagues, but our numbers are way down from last year, probably less than half. I’m not sure why. Is anyone having trouble joining? Only 4 in survival… usually like 20. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2013, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/18 "2013-08-26T04:03:20Z")
Participation is down in [my College Pick’Em](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=699011) game this year, too. Not sure why. Just like\*\* Beef\*\*'s Confidence NFL game, there is no limit to the number of players, and everyone is welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/19 "2013-09-03T19:43:49Z")
Bumping this up for anyone else who dawdled in signing up this season as badly as I did. Get back in the pool, people!! ---
**Author:** ![BigDadWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@BigDadWolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigDadWolf)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972/20 "2013-09-04T13:23:34Z")
I’m in for confidence and survivor leagues. Hopefully there will be some more last minute participants. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-nfl-pick-em-survival-and-salary-cap-2013/665972.md?page=2)