# SDMB Poker Q1 2011: That's jacked and other whining **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 5, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528 "2011-01-05T20:11:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/61 "2011-01-29T15:28:11Z")
> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > I found video of asterion (and Missy?) on poker night [here](http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/cat_keyboard_dealwithit.gif?w=286&h=227). Yup, that scene is _very_ familiar, even down to that cat looking a lot like Mayme. Mayme and Dot prefer to chase the cursor, though. Lucy likes walking across the keyboard. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2011, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/62 "2011-01-29T15:37:28Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > It would seem like the Hubble NL games have a LOT of people playing non suited, middle connectors. > > Am I undervaluing them ? > > [Short stacked, went all in on A-8 off, Called by 6-5 off, I paired my ace, he paired his 5 of the turn, tripped on the river.] That’s poker, Meeko. You were a hair better than a 3-2 favorite pre-flop. But then many hands are only 3-2 favorites pre-flop. Was the villain also short-stacked? Was he one of the blinds? How were the blinds compared to everyone’s stack? How close was everybody to being in the money? What do you believe your image was? Lots of variables. Or you can look at it as you just lost to a donk; it happens. Post-flop, assuming no straight or flush draws, including runner-runner, you were a 13-1 favorite. I mean, he caught runner-runner 5s to beat you, for Christ’s sake. It was just a bad beat, and it happens to everybody. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/63 "2011-02-02T03:43:51Z")
Paging Oslo and Fubbs, and anyone else in the path of the storm. Hope you’re doing OK and staying warm. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/64 "2011-02-02T16:09:53Z")
we managed to avoid the worst of it here, but i’ve been in the hospital all week anyway lol ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/65 "2011-02-02T17:08:15Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > I mean, he caught runner-runner 5s to beat you, for Christ’s sake. It was just a bad beat, and it happens to everybody. … That happens to play in a Pstars tourney. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/66 "2011-02-02T17:25:36Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > … That happens to play in a Pstars tourney. Yup, the solid majority of times I get taken out in a Pstars tourney, I’m the clear hand favorite. But I still lose when I’m the chump. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/67 "2011-02-02T18:58:04Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Yup, the solid majority of times I get taken out in a Pstars tourney, I’m the clear hand favorite. But I still lose when I’m the chump. If you ask me, that’s the Fundemental flaw with the game. Of course, I’m only talking about bad beats, and not when I have miracles on the river. 😃 What? I can whine, it’s in the title! ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/68 "2011-02-02T19:53:14Z")
> [@Meeko](#): > > If you ask me, that’s the Fundemental flaw with the game. > > Of course, I’m only talking about bad beats, and not when I have miracles on the river. 😃 > > What? I can whine, it’s in the title! I guess I am starting along the road to skillz in poker because I am beginning to see in action the pro’s analysis that having several complete wildcards on the table is actually worse odds of winning a tournament than having maybe a couple, with the rest being mostly average players, because the “[del]crazy ass[/del] psycho motherfuckers” (as I call them under my breath) are more likely to take, and win on, enormous odds. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/69 "2011-02-02T21:58:49Z")
I played in the facebook FR this afternoon. I had a pocket pair of 3’s with a 45K6J on the board, busted straight draw. I bet half pot because I figure the only way I win was for every body to fold. One guy calls with 9/8 off. WTF? Yes he had a busted straight draw as well, but why just call me, if he raised, I would have run away like a little girl. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/70 "2011-02-02T22:02:45Z")
The only hands he could beat were 9/7 9/3 9/2 8/3 8/2 and 7/2 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/71 "2011-02-02T22:04:15Z")
That’s precious, mensa! (His behavior, not your post :)) ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/72 "2011-02-03T06:41:22Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > Paging Oslo and Fubbs, and anyone else in the path of the storm. Hope you’re doing OK and staying warm. Got very lucky. Maybe 6" of sleet/snow, and the wind didn’t make major problems - maybe 2 foot drifts in places. NFM? ---
**Author:** ![peekercpa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@peekercpa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peekercpa)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/73 "2011-02-03T14:22:21Z")
i’ll try to make it tonight but it depends on the weather. although if we get snow it would be the first time that i have played poker in the snow. the problem is that trying to run a computer with gloves on is exceedingly challenging. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/74 "2011-02-03T15:44:58Z")
> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#): > > Got very lucky. Maybe 6" of sleet/snow, and the wind didn’t make major problems - maybe 2 foot drifts in places. > > NFM? There was absolutely no snow here. Lots of rain but we were south of the front, but not by a lot. 60 mile North of me got blasted. Got a trace of snow this morning, just enough to cover my deck. No biggie. and **PeekerCPA** cut out those cancer sticks and you will be able to play inside. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/75 "2011-02-04T00:16:22Z")
Courtesy Thursday Bump: Poker Player gets DQ from a [€1500 tournament](http://www.pokernews.com/news/2011/02/karabulut-disqualified-from-holland-casino-dom-classic-for-c-9777.htm) in Holland. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/76 "2011-02-04T01:03:42Z")
I won’t make it yet again, because I haave a doctor’s appointment early in the morning and if I were still up at 11 I’d be at work! Don’t worry I’ll return shortly to lower my standings back down. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/77 "2011-02-04T02:19:18Z")
Well it happened again. Down to 2BB and had AQs and I was the BB next so went all in. 3 others followed, KQo, Q10o, and 56s. 56 got the flush on the river. At least I got a ticket. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/78 "2011-02-04T04:47:50Z")
Results for 03 Feb: 1. Ast 2. Hellboy 3. Meeko 4. Craneop 5. Ghost 6. Red 7. Mensa 8. yeti 9. Peeker 10. Mental Guy 11. Oslo 12. Dag 13. Frosty 14. Missy 15. fubbs ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2011, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/79 "2011-02-04T06:12:25Z")
Standings courtesy of Oslo: Standings 1 Dag Otto 80.3 2 Gray Ghost 77.8 3 Yeticus Rex 70.2 4 Ludovic 65.2 5 MissTake 63.6 6 Red Skeezix 62.8 7 frosted glass 62.3 8 Oslo Ostragoth 60.8 9 MentalGuy 50.6 10 notfrommensa 48.7 11 Craneop2 47.4 12 GreenHell 34.0 13 peekercpa 32.0 14 Meeko 24.4 Sorry, Jay. Not enough. ---
**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2011, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/80 "2011-02-09T14:09:46Z")
You are the short stack at the table, having just over 1/10th of your original stack. Your first card is the Ace of spades. Second card is Two of spades. You are under the gun. Every last bit of instinct, intuition, gut feeling, etc is with you, in your favor. Do you shove all in? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528.md?page=5)