# SDMB Poker Q1 2011: That's jacked and other whining

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 5, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528 "2011-01-05T20:11:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/121 "2011-03-18T00:37:04Z")

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I just restarted the server to implement an upgrade. If you were registered for tonight’s game (I think I saw two registrants, but didn’t think to check names first, sorry) you will need to re-register. Sorry!

If you were pre-registered and can’t re-register before game time for some reason, but can PM me, I can manually re-register you for a late arrival, if needed.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/122 "2011-03-18T00:48:23Z")

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> [@fubbleskag](#):
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> I just restarted the server to implement an upgrade. If you were registered for tonight’s game (I think I saw two registrants, but didn’t think to check names first, sorry) you will need to re-register. Sorry!
> 
> If you were pre-registered and can’t re-register before game time for some reason, but can PM me, I can manually re-register you for a late arrival, if needed.

It was GrayGhost and I that were registered. I will re-register, I don’t know if Ghosty is online so you might want to register him

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/123 "2011-03-18T01:18:22Z")

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got it, thanks!

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/124 "2011-03-18T03:42:38Z")

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Here are the standings for Tonight’s game, Straight from Dag himself :

10.Dag  
9.Mensa  
8.Ghost  
7.Missy  
6.Mrs.Crane  
5.The Big O  
4.Mental  
3.Fubbs  
2.Yeti

1.Meeko\* - “” No fucking way “”

- I had some stellar hands tonight. **Pocket Rockets** not Once, not twice, but \*\*THREE TIMES! \*\*The Third time to take out Mensa who shoved all in against me with her pocket Queens.

Then Yeti Shoves all in my Flopped Boat, Queens over Fives. Had to call that one.

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/125 "2011-03-18T03:44:17Z")

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standings:

1 Dag Otto 74.7  
2 fubbleskag 68.0  
3 Yeticus Rex 67.0  
4 frosted glass 66.1  
5 notfrommensa 63.3  
6 Oslo Ostragoth 63.1  
7 Craneop2 62.53  
8 MissTake 62.46  
9 Ludovic 61.5  
10 Gray Ghost 58.4  
11 MentalGuy 51.2  
12 Red Skeezix 49.1  
13 Meeko 44.7  
14 GreenHell 34.0  
15 peekercpa 26.5

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/126 "2011-03-18T03:44:26Z")

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Q1 chip count totals as of end of tonight’s game:

```auto

Tomov $ 30,210
craneop2 $ 23,250
YeticusRex $ 20,940
GGhost149 $ 19,125
NFMensa $ 18,675
MissyTake $ 17,880
fubbleskag $ 16,575
FrostedGlass $ 15,075
Meeko $ 12,315
Oslo_Ostra2 $ 11,220
Ludovic $ 10,950
Red_Skeezix $ 10,185
MentalGuy $ 9,600
peekercpa $ 1,500

```

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/127 "2011-03-18T03:45:30Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> - I had some stellar hands tonight. **Pocket Rockets** not Once, not twice, but \*\*THREE TIMES! \*\*The Third time to take out Mensa who shoved all in against me with her pocket Queens.

Wasn’t it MissTake?

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/128 "2011-03-18T03:51:54Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> - I had some stellar hands tonight. **Pocket Rockets** not Once, not twice, but \*\*THREE TIMES! \*\*The Third time to take out Mensa who shoved all in against me with her pocket Queens.

FWIW, fubbs is the one that knocked me out tonight, with trips.

And Meeko, I am a DUDE, with XY chromosomes and an outie (not an innie).

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/129 "2011-03-18T03:53:16Z")

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Yeah well ok.  
Fine.  
Uh, I won so many chips tonight they went to my brain, literally, and so yeah well, wires got crossed.

Lets use that.

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/130 "2011-03-18T03:57:16Z")

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> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#):
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> Wasn’t it MissTake?

Yes:

> [@](#):
>
> Hand #7153-46 - 2011-03-17 23:16:59  
> Game: No Limit Hold’em (0+0) - Blinds 100/200 Ante 25  
> Site: SDMB Poker (chez fubbleskag)  
> Table: Thursday Night - Table 1  
> Seat 1: MentalGuy (610)  
> Seat 5: YeticusRex (3065)  
> Seat 6: MissyTake (2300)  
> Seat 7: mrsCrane (1025)  
> Seat 8: Oslo\_Ostra2 (920)  
> Seat 9: fubbleskag (4275)  
> Seat 10: Meeko (2805)  
> MissyTake has the dealer button  
> MentalGuy posts ante 25  
> YeticusRex posts ante 25  
> MissyTake posts ante 25  
> mrsCrane posts ante 25  
> Oslo\_Ostra2 posts ante 25  
> fubbleskag posts ante 25  
> Meeko posts ante 25  
> mrsCrane posts small blind 100  
> Oslo\_Ostra2 posts big blind 200  
> \*\* Hole Cards \*\*  
> fubbleskag has timed out  
> fubbleskag folds  
> Meeko raises to 600  
> MentalGuy folds  
> YeticusRex folds  
> MissyTake raises to 1000  
> mrsCrane folds  
> Oslo\_Ostra2 folds  
> Meeko raises to 1400  
> MissyTake raises to 2275 (All-in)  
> Meeko calls 875  
> \*\* Flop \*\* [9h Td Th]  
> \*\* Turn \*\* [5c]  
> \*\* River \*\* [Jd]  
> \*\* Pot Show Down \*\* [9h Td Th 5c Jd]  
> MissyTake shows [Qc Qd] (Two Pair, Queens and Tens +J)  
> Meeko shows [Ac As] (Two Pair, Aces and Tens +J)  
> Meeko wins Pot (5025) with Two Pair  
> MissyTake finishes tournament in place #7

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/131 "2011-03-18T04:00:11Z")

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> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#):
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> Wasn’t it MissTake?

Ok, so I got the gender correct, but not the name. 😃

That’s some vindication.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/132 "2011-03-18T04:03:17Z")

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In other news:

Badugi is now officially called the Memento\* of Poker.

The 2000 or so movie with Guy Pearce, Trinity and Cypher 😃

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/133 "2011-03-20T04:56:44Z")

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[http://www.businessinsider.com/pro-poker-player-builds-slide-to-connect-east-village-penthouses-2011-3](http://www.businessinsider.com/pro-poker-player-builds-slide-to-connect-east-village-penthouses-2011-3)

FTA:

The buyer was Phil Galfond, who we’re guessing is the same Phil Galfond that makes his living as a professional poker player and lives in New York City. If there’s one guy you’d expect to have a metal slide linking his two downtown Manhattan penthouses, it’s a 26-year-old poker pro, right? Our only question is, dude, why leave out a ball pit at the bottom?

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**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/134 "2011-03-20T05:13:37Z")

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We should maybe talk about moving “The Game” to PokerStars HomeGame for the next quarter. Mavens has its limitations, and I, for one, would be in favor of a move.  
It’s not like we haven’t moved before - I think that The Game has been played at about a half-dozen sites.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/135 "2011-03-20T15:52:13Z")

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> [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](#):
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> We should maybe talk about moving “The Game” to PokerStars HomeGame for the next quarter. Mavens has its limitations, and I, for one, would be in favor of a move.  
> It’s not like we haven’t moved before - I think that The Game has been played at about a half-dozen sites.

The only problem I have with moving “The Game” to PokerStars is the blind structure at PokerStars vs Mavens. Stars simply does not increase fast enough IMO. It actually starts out ahead, but falls behind quickly.

Mavens and Poker Stars Blind/ante Structure:

```auto

Mavens

Level	Ante	SB	BB
1	0	10	20
2	0	15	30
3	0	25	50
4	0	50	100
5	0	75	150
6	0	100	200
7	25	100	200
8	25	200	400
9	50	300	600
10	50	400	800
11	75	600	1200
12	75	800	1600

PokerStars

Level	Ante	SB	BB
1	0	15	30
2	0	20	40
3	0	25	50
4	5	30	60
5	10	40	80
6	10	50	100
7	15	60	120
8	20	75	150
9	25	100	200
10	30	125	250
11	40	150	300
12	50	200	400

```

as far as I can tell, the blind Structure cannot be altered, but the timing can. If we do go to Stars (and I agree it is far more robust than Mavens) we should go to 5 minutes increase on blinds and increase the chip amounts from 1500 chips to 2000 chips.

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/136 "2011-03-20T17:31:51Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> The only problem I have with moving “The Game” to PokerStars is the blind structure at PokerStars vs Mavens. Stars simply does not increase fast enough IMO. It actually starts out ahead, but falls behind quickly.

For me, that would actually be a plus. Our last tourneys with 6-8 people left, all with 5-10 BBs, late in the tourney have been a little ridiculous, IMO. (Much more ridiculous is that I can’t seem to adjust very well)

I understand that’s the nature of SNGs, and I understand we don’t want to be playing cards for 3 hours, but the Stars’ blind structure doesn’t seem that onerous to me.

So I’m OK with moving to Stars as it is, and have no problem with **Mensa** ’s suggested changes.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/137 "2011-03-21T16:46:29Z")

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I’m good with the move…I can adapt to any blind structure, as long as the changes take place at the end/beginning of any quarter.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/138 "2011-03-21T23:47:01Z")

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I guess I can lose just as well at Stars as I can at Mavens.

[But seriously, I support the move. Mavens hangs on me all the time, and I don’t know why.]

Just glad that I lost “” The Game “” just before I caught up on this thread.

You’re Welcome

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/139 "2011-03-22T01:41:57Z")

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probably no surprise here, but I’m more than happy to move to Stars. the delays and hangs with Mavens are related to my lack of upstream bandwidth, and I’m happy to be free of the guilt lol

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**Author:** ![MissTake](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/misstake/32/3189_2.png) [@MissTake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MissTake)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2011, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poker-q1-2011-thats-jacked-and-other-whining/566528/140 "2011-03-22T17:48:21Z")

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I’m agreeable.  
Now, if I could remember who is who without the google cheatsheet, life would be better.

As would getting some of the player who have wandered away… hint hint.

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