# SDMB poster Shodan put his hands on his own adopted child **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 16, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639 "2018-11-16T19:39:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/1 "2018-11-16T19:39:50Z")
Presumably he finds nothing objectionable about this thread title. > [@White House likley altered video of Jim Acosta](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/white-house-likley-altered-video-of-jim-acosta/824242/127): > > “Putting your hand on a woman” means putting your hand on a woman. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/2 "2018-11-16T19:46:21Z")
I think you’ll need to expand this OP a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/3 "2018-11-16T19:50:20Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I think you’ll need to expand this OP a bit. I’m good. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/4 "2018-11-16T19:53:58Z")
I’ma go out on a limb and presume you’re annoyed at him for claiming that the term “put hands on a woman” doesn’t mean hitting them, in defiance of decades of established fact. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/5 "2018-11-16T19:54:48Z")
I was fully prepared to be outraged, but this OP is an empty vessel. Instead, I am going to go rage at the wind. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/6 "2018-11-16T19:55:26Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > I’m good. Your OP isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/7 "2018-11-16T19:56:42Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I think you’ll need to expand this OP a bit. He needs to post a speeded-up video of me doing it to prove that I didn’t. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/8 "2018-11-16T19:58:05Z")
I think it’s a perfectly cromulent OP. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/9 "2018-11-16T19:58:09Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Your OP isn’t. Noted. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/10 "2018-11-16T19:58:33Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > I think you’ll need to expand this OP a bit. Since **Lance** wants to be a passive aggressive dick today… **Shodan** thinks Acosta put his hands on that intern that was trying to take the microphone away from him at the infamous press conference. It’s a worthy pitting, but the OP fails miserably in making that point. ---
**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/11 "2018-11-16T20:08:24Z")
> [@Grrr](#): > > Since **Lance** wants to be a passive aggressive dick today… > **Shodan** thinks Acosta put his hands on that intern that was trying to take the microphone away from him at the infamous press conference. > > It’s a worthy pitting, but the OP fails miserably in making that point. I appreciate your contribution to this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/12 "2018-11-16T20:10:34Z")
if anyone wants a data point from a completely neutral and uninterested party, the phrase “putting your hands on a woman” means, to me at least, using your hands to touch a woman in some way. There is a negative connotation (otherwise you’d just say “touch”) but it doesn’t mean hit (otherwise you’d use the word “hit”) ---
**Author:** ![EscAlaMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/escalamike/32/4177_2.png) [@EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EscAlaMike)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/13 "2018-11-16T20:26:23Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > if anyone wants a data point from a completely neutral and uninterested party, the phrase “putting your hands on a woman” means, to me at least, using your hands to touch a woman in some way. To qualify further, it’s not just to touch in “some way”, but to touch in a way that is unwelcome to the woman. Not necessarily sexual, and not necessarily hitting, just unwelcome. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/14 "2018-11-16T20:35:17Z")
Google seems to suggest that “put hands on” anyone, male or female, means to assault them physically, as in hit. This is my own experience in encountering the term. Translating the OP then, **Shodan** is playing the “that’s not what the words mean” game, and ignoring the idiomatic common usage. **Lance Turbo** is calling him out for that. Fair enough. I hate that game. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/15 "2018-11-16T20:36:57Z")
At the very least, the tread title give me hope that Shodan isn’t reproducing. ---
**Author:** ![EscAlaMike](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/escalamike/32/4177_2.png) [@EscAlaMike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EscAlaMike)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/16 "2018-11-16T20:38:05Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Google seems to suggest that “put hands on” anyone, male or female, means to assault them physically, as in hit. This is my own experience in encountering the term. But you’re stretching the meaning of “assault”. “Assault” does not necessarily mean “hit”. In Florida, one doesn’t even have to make any physical contact to commit an assault. Just look up the statutes. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/17 "2018-11-16T20:40:53Z")
I think there’s also a bit of confusion here between the phrases “putting his hands on” and “laying a hand on”.\* “To lay a hand on” is routinely used, typically with a negative construction, as synonymous with “to hit” or “to hit even slightly”. As in _“But officer, I didn’t lay a hand on him! He got those bruises when he tripped and fell!”_ Intensive version is “to lay a finger on”, as in _“He never laid a finger on her so I don’t know why she says he was acting aggressive”_. IMHO the phrase “put his hands on” is more ambiguous than “laid a hand on” and doesn’t so clearly imply striking or violence. - Not to be confused, of course, with the Christian ecclesiastical ritual known as “laying on of hands”. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/18 "2018-11-16T20:41:33Z")
> [@Lance\_Turbo](#): > > I appreciate your contribution to this thread. You should envy it. It surpasses yours. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/19 "2018-11-16T20:45:46Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > I think there’s also a bit of confusion here between the phrases “putting his hands on” and “laying a hand on”.\* > > “To lay a hand on” is routinely used, typically with a negative construction, as synonymous with “to hit” or “to hit even slightly”. As in _“But officer, I didn’t lay a hand on him! He got those bruises when he tripped and fell!”_ Wait are you saying Bon Jovi was asking to be [hit or slightly hit?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhjSzibOIH4) ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639/20 "2018-11-16T20:46:25Z")
I always have interpreted it as more than mere touching, but begins with less than actual punches and hitting. So getting physically moved/manhandled would be “having hands laid on”, even if no punches were thrown. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-poster-shodan-put-his-hands-on-his-own-adopted-child/824639.md?page=2)