# SDMB Retrospective US Presidential Elections 1864 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 11, 2014, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1864/695287 "2014-08-11T07:15:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1864/695287/1 "2014-08-11T07:15:17Z")
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United\_States\_presidential\_election,\_1864](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1864) Lincoln and Liberty once again! Let there be no peace with the slavers and traitors! Unconditional surrender and abolition! ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1864/695287/2 "2014-08-11T07:39:24Z")
Lincoln easily. Don’t change horses in mid-stream. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1864/695287/3 "2014-08-11T07:41:43Z")
Not even close. We have a President who’s now winning the war versus a former general who lost most of his battles. And McClellan agreed with Lincoln on the issue of continuing the war. So McClellan’s platform seemed to be promising to do the same thing that Lincoln was doing but not doing it as well. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1864/695287/4 "2014-08-11T07:54:13Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Not even close. We have a President who’s now winning the war versus a former general who lost most of his battles. And McClellan agreed with Lincoln on the issue of continuing the war. So McClellan’s platform seemed to be promising to do the same thing that Lincoln was doing but not doing it as well. Well that and McClellan probably wouldn’t have supported the 13th Amendment. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1864/695287/5 "2014-08-11T17:07:39Z")
Long Lincoln a little longer! ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2014, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1864/695287/6 "2014-08-11T18:16:59Z")
Not a real tough one, considering Lincoln’s opposition was about the worst field general that Lincoln ever had. Mind you, he could get those troops equipped and trained, but wan’t too keen on actually using them. Best move Lincoln ever made was firing his sorry ass. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1864/695287/7 "2014-08-12T02:57:27Z")
Who voted for Other? Oh, I can’t say I’m surprised. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1864/695287/8 "2014-08-12T15:27:48Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Who voted for Other? Oh, I can’t say I’m surprised. Surprised by the groupthink or courage? I’m not surprised the proponents of good government and republican democracy happened to vote for the guy who deported political enemies and issues arrest warrants for the Chief Justice. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2014, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1864/695287/9 "2014-08-12T20:32:50Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Surprised by the groupthink or courage? Posting neo-Confederate crap anonymously on a messageboard is not “courage.” ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2014, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1864/695287/10 "2014-08-17T16:02:23Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Posting neo-Confederate crap anonymously on a messageboard is not “courage.” Neo-confederate? What are you babbling on about bud? Funny how you didn’t deny the groupthink. Thanks for not posting some article by Michael Lind about how groupthink created the industrial revolution or some bullshit ---
**Author:** ![zain8500](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8edcca/32.png) [@zain8500](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zain8500)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2014, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1864/695287/11 "2014-08-20T10:33:09Z")
Abraham linkon is best… ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2014, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1864/695287/12 "2014-08-20T12:36:04Z")
**dropzone** and **WillFarnaby** , stick to discussing the topic and quit picking fights with other posters. **WillFarnaby** , if you want to discuss old Conspiracy Theories, open a new thread to do it. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1864/695287/13 "2014-08-21T19:06:05Z")
Too late for the poll, but I’d definitely be for Lincoln. Smart, canny, able, determined, and has learned from his many mistakes. Second only to Washington (and that, only narrowly) as a great President. Victory is in sight against the traitors of the Confederacy, and the scourge of slavery is well on the way to extinction. Now if only he’d take his own personal security a little more seriously… > [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Surprised by the groupthink or courage? > > I’m not surprised the proponents of good government and republican democracy happened to vote for the guy who deported political enemies and issues arrest warrants for the Chief Justice. Cite? Lincoln ordered Copperhead leader Clement Vallandigham’s deportation, true, but a military tribunal had ordered him imprisoned for life. I deny he ever issued an arrest warrant for the Chief Justice (Taney, I assume you mean). ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1864/695287/14 "2014-08-21T19:51:26Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Funny how you didn’t deny the groupthink. The word you are looking for is “consensus.”