# SDMB Retrospective US Presidential Elections 1904 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 23, 2014, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1904/679513 "2014-01-23T07:43:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2014, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1904/679513/41 "2014-01-28T23:29:31Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > I > [quoted] > ([Blockade of Germany - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_Germany)) this for you before but here it goes: > > Winston Churchill: > > “The British blockade treated the whole of Germany as if it were a beleaguered fortress, and avowedly sought to starve the whole population — men, women, and children, old and young, wounded and sound — into submission.” > > “We are enforcing the blockade with rigour… It is repugnant to the British nation to use this weapon of starvation, which falls mainly on the women and children, upon the old and the weak and the poor, after all the fighting has stopped, one moment longer than is necessary to secure the just terms for which we have fought.” > > By “just terms” I believe he’s speaking of the Treaty of Versailles. Bit of a stretch even for a politician. Sad. But, please remind me, what has any of that to do with Roosevelt or 1904? ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1904/679513/42 "2014-01-29T15:55:43Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Sad. But, please remind me, what has any of that to do with Roosevelt or 1904? Absolutely nothing to do with the election of 1904. Got a bit off topic. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1904/679513/43 "2014-01-29T18:07:16Z")
T.R. won by an even bigger landslide here than he did in 1904, and that’s _saying_ something. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1904/679513/44 "2014-01-30T14:58:20Z")
Indeed. It is saying that court historians in their lust for the aggrandizement of government power, especially exercised by a quixotic executive with folksy charm, have succeeded in persuading the general public that someone (who loved war so much he designed and advocated a war of conquest, with strong _racial_ overtones, in which the native population lost hundreds of thousands of lives) like Roosevelt was an everyman. They’ll probably give the same treatment to George W Bush. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1904/679513/45 "2014-01-30T15:09:49Z")
I’d have voted for TR. Probably the last good Republican president there was. Trustbusting- good. National parks- good. Sending gunboats down to Panama so it could declare independence from Colombia- not so good. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1904/679513/46 "2014-01-30T15:24:45Z")
> [@WillFarnaby](#): > > Indeed. It is saying that court historians . . . :dubious:The who? > [@WillFarnaby](#): > > . . . have succeeded in persuading the general public that someone . . . like Roosevelt was an everyman. :dubious: :dubious: “Everyman”? Nobody would have called Roosevelt that while he lived, and nobody thinks of him that way now. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1904/679513/47 "2014-01-31T21:07:30Z")
Poll closed already? Darn. Put me down for TR anyway. ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1904/679513/48 "2014-01-31T21:59:59Z")
Roosevelt wins in a landslide. BULLY! ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2014, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-retrospective-us-presidential-elections-1904/679513/49 "2014-02-01T03:17:25Z")
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