# SDMB with Safari?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-with-safari/235451>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [March 20, 2004, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-with-safari/235451 "2004-03-20T20:50:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-with-safari/235451/1 "2004-03-20T20:50:17Z")

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I tried searching – I can’t believe I’m the only one having this problem…

Why can’t I see the arrows on the forum posts screen that let me open the thread and go directly to the new message? This happens on two Macs with Mac OS X 10.3.3, and Safari 1.2.1. Mozilla on the PeeCee seems to show the arrows properly. In all cases I have the theme set to “Straight Dope” – not the old v.3 style.

Any ideas?

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-with-safari/235451/2 "2004-03-21T23:02:20Z")

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For this, we need some reference from our SDMB folks that have the same software and hardware going on. Lemme ask . . . I’m PC mostly these days, and my Mac stuff is quite elderly, so I’m no help at all.

your humble TubaDiva  
Administrator

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_griffin-kentzel/32/14787_2.png) [@Larry\_Griffin-Kentzel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Griffin-Kentzel)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-with-safari/235451/3 "2004-03-22T02:45:09Z")

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Mac OS X 10.3.3 and Safari 1.2.1 here. I see the “Go to first new post” arrows just fine. Don’t know what to tell you.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-with-safari/235451/4 "2004-03-22T04:15:08Z")

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OS 10.2.8, Safari 1.0.2, no problems here.

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**Author:** ![chattywine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5daacb/32.png) [@chattywine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chattywine)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-with-safari/235451/5 "2004-03-22T08:50:53Z")

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Safari 1.0 - OSX 10.3, no problems here either.

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**Author:** ![Papermache\_Prince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f05b48/32.png) [@Papermache\_Prince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Papermache_Prince)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-with-safari/235451/6 "2004-03-22T14:16:05Z")

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Safari 1.2.1, Mac OS X 10.3.3 - no arrow problem here.

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**Author:** ![sunfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/96bed5/32.png) [@sunfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sunfish)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-with-safari/235451/7 "2004-03-22T14:34:56Z")

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This seems to be as good a place to ask as any-

I’ve got OS 10.3.3 and Safari 1.2.1 as well. At least half the time, clicking on "view first unread post’ either dumps me at the end of the thread, rather than the place where I actually left off, or it repeatedly brings me back to the same point in the thread no matter how much further I’ve read on. I don’t log out of the SDMB at all between visits, because I don’t share this laptop with anyone. So why is Safari “forgetting” what I’ve viewed last?

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**Author:** ![wakimika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f08c70/32.png) [@wakimika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wakimika)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-with-safari/235451/8 "2004-03-22T15:00:50Z")

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OS 10.2.8 with Safari 1.0.2 here.

I also see the arrows when using the Straightdope theme. If I go to Safari\>Preferences\>Appearance and uncheck the “display images when the page opens” box, then refresh, the arrows will be gone.

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-with-safari/235451/9 "2004-03-22T19:18:26Z")

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OS X 10.2 & Safari 1.0…no arrow problem.

What has stopped working for me are the mouseover pop-ups though.

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**Author:** ![SuperNelson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@SuperNelson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuperNelson)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-with-safari/235451/10 "2004-03-22T21:35:13Z")

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OS 10.3.3 and Safari 1.2.1, with no problems with the arrow or mouse over. I have noticed that the mouse over preview doesn’t seem to work with threads whose original post predates the implementation of that feature.

P.S.: My first post as a Charter Member!!!

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**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-with-safari/235451/11 "2004-03-23T00:13:12Z")

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(my first post as a charter member, too!)

I _do_ get the arrows after I’ve opened the post, just in case I’m confusing anyone. What I don’t get are the arrows on the main pages that list all of the post topics (the one with the popup descriptions). I like to open everything in tabs before reading anything, which works, but just no going directly to the post.

I tried what **wakimika** said, but I already have load images checked. When I uncheck it, the “new message” graphics all disappear (and locked and no new message indicators). When I load images, though, they all appear correctly. I _see_ that there are new images, and the thread title is bolded properly.

Really, it’s just a minor hassle. _And_ I’ve already gone and spent the $4.95. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmb-with-safari/235451/12 "2004-03-23T19:28:49Z")

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> So why is Safari “forgetting” what I’ve viewed last?

Safari isn’t keeping track in the first place; the board is. The problem is that it’s supposed to show you everything new since your last visit, but it’s a little ambiguous what your last visit is, so the board has to make a few educated guesses. More often than not, these guesses are wrong. This is an issue with all browsers, not just Safari, and is independent of any settings you may have in your browser.
