# SDMB's Heisman

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [December 6, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275 "2011-12-06T17:38:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 1

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/1 "2011-12-06T17:38:43Z")

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Without drawing discussion and commentary away from **Gangster Octopus** ’s thread [Heisman Finalists Announced](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=633833) started Yesterday, 05:51 PM , I’m curious how the voting would go if SDMB were the body in charge of handing out the statue.

Vote once in private for your pick from

Robert Griffin III  
Andrew Luck  
Montee Ball  
Trent Richardson  
Tyrann Mathieu

(poll on the way)

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/2 "2011-12-06T17:42:07Z")

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Voting my own West Coast bias: Luck.

(I’d vote for Mathieu, but he seems like too big of an asshole to vote for.)

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/3 "2011-12-06T17:48:31Z")

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I would like to see Matthieu win because he is a defensive player.

But I think the Heisman goes to Griffin.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/4 "2011-12-06T17:52:35Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> I would like to see Matthieu win because he is a defensive player.
> 
> But I think the Heisman goes to Griffin.

We think alike on this one, **NFM**!

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/5 "2011-12-06T17:56:24Z")

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> [@Zeldar](#):
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> We think alike on this one, **NFM**!

But apparently you haven’t (or didn’t) vote like me as Matthieu has only one vote at this time.

My answer to: “who wins” and “who I want to win” is different.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/6 "2011-12-06T18:09:29Z")

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> [@notfrommensa](#):
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> But apparently you haven’t (or didn’t) vote like me as Matthieu has only one vote at this time.
> 
> My answer to: “who wins” and “who I want to win” is different.

I voted for Griffin, bit would love to see Mathieu get it.

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**Author:** ![divemaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/divemaster/32/78_2.png) [@divemaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/divemaster)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/7 "2011-12-06T18:16:24Z")

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I voted for Mathieu. I think he can be an idiot at times but I don’t get any indication he’s more of an asshole than any other tough defensive back.

He is a game-changer as a punt returner, corner, and/or safety. Forced fumbles, interceptions, hard tackles. Hell, he just takes what he wants!

Knowing that Mathieu won’t win, I hope Griffin III takes it.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/8 "2011-12-06T19:00:48Z")

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Voted for RGIII even though I am Wisconsin class of '89.

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**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2011, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/9 "2011-12-06T19:52:55Z")

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Mathieu has made so many game-turning plays that have kept LSU #1 all season, that he gets my vote.

RGIII is my second choice.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/10 "2011-12-08T12:34:44Z")

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After 18 votes our Heisman appears to be going to Griffin, but maybe if I had phrased the question more precisely and we all had been voting for our personal preference instead of who we thought the actual winner would be, Mathieu would be the winner.

Maybe somebody else could start a more accurate poll?

Surely more than 18 have an opinion?

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**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/11 "2011-12-08T14:08:12Z")

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I voted for RGIII. He was the best player in college football. Baylor may have been a 3 or 4 win team without him.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/12 "2011-12-08T14:39:45Z")

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Just for laughs, go vote at [2011 Heisman Trophy race: Baylor's Robert Griffin leads field of five (poll) - oregonlive.com](http://www.oregonlive.com/heisman-trophy/index.ssf/2011/12/2011-heisman-trophy-poll.html)

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**Author:** ![mkecane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9e8a1a/32.png) [@mkecane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mkecane)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/13 "2011-12-08T15:58:17Z")

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For what it’s worth, my preference is RGIII, and I would have thought he’d be a runaway winner with the actual voters. But if this poll below is any indication of the general populace and actual Heisman voters (I haven’t checked any other polls outside the SDMB), then I’m just shocked.

> [@Zeldar](#):
>
> Just for laughs, go vote at [2011 Heisman Trophy race: Baylor's Robert Griffin leads field of five (poll) - oregonlive.com](http://www.oregonlive.com/heisman-trophy/index.ssf/2011/12/2011-heisman-trophy-poll.html)

What the hell?!

```auto

Thank you for voting! 
**Tyrann Mathieu 43.45% (577 votes)**  

  
Robert Griffin 31.1% (413 votes)   

  
Trent Richardson 11.67% (155 votes)   

  
Andrew Luck 9.19% (122 votes)   

  
Montee Ball 4.59% (61 votes)   

    
Total Votes: 1,328

```

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/14 "2011-12-08T17:25:39Z")

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Richardson. Roll Tide!

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/15 "2011-12-08T17:43:33Z")

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These two analyst that solicit actual Heisman voters votes are calling it for RG3 by a landslide.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/16 "2011-12-08T17:57:40Z")

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I’ll be in a Hill Country hunting camp Saturday night with 7 ex Baylor football players. Should be… interesting.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/17 "2011-12-09T15:48:23Z")

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Will anybody else be totally surprised if RGIII does **not** win the Heisman?

I’m leaning as much on the analysis at [http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=pf-forde\_heisman\_trophy\_vote\_backed\_stats\_120811](http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=pf-forde_heisman_trophy_vote_backed_stats_120811) as I am on our little poll.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/18 "2011-12-10T16:38:44Z")

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They’re going to announce the official Heisman winner tonight. If you want your vote to matter before then, better get it in.

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/19 "2011-12-10T17:34:34Z")

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> [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](#):
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> I voted for RGIII. He was the best player in college football. Baylor may have been a 3 or 4 win team without him.

Ditto. Only Luck is even as close to being as important to his team.

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**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sdmbs-heisman/605275/20 "2011-12-11T00:50:38Z")

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Here’s how things look before the show starts:

```auto

Who do you want to see win the Heisman?  

Robert Griffin III 17 45.95% 
Andrew Luck 7 18.92% 
Montee Ball 2 5.41% 
Trent Richardson 5 13.51% 
Tyrann Mathieu 6 16.22% 

Voters: 37

```

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