# Sea of Cecil dopers... who are you?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 26, 2003, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311 "2003-04-26T13:34:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/41 "2003-04-29T22:29:42Z")

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Well I _was_ the ruler of The Kingdom of Ciscopia until I got bored of logging on every day just to have the same 8-10 issues repeated over and over and over.

Who else read the book? I got it the day it came out and finished it that night. It was really good but I was expecting it to be _great_ (my own fault for having artificially high expectations.) Too short too.

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**Author:** ![Super\_Gnat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@Super\_Gnat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Super_Gnat)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/42 "2003-04-29T22:44:56Z")

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The Republic of Ignorant Bliss. We used to have a better economy, but then it collapsed for some reason.

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**Author:** ![Blackeyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f6c823/32.png) [@Blackeyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blackeyes)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/43 "2003-04-29T22:49:27Z")

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I thought it was a great book. The ending was “eh” not bad, but not as good as the rest of it was, but a very good book overall. Much better than that commie propagandafest _1984_ crap.

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**Author:** ![TheOnlySaneOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@TheOnlySaneOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheOnlySaneOne)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/44 "2003-04-29T22:52:38Z")

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King Xavier Damion the First here, having recently moved the [Kingdom of Mindelan](http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=mindelan) to the Sea of Cecil from North America.

Haven’t checked on my countrymen in quite sometime, as their issues are quite repetitive.

_looks out the window and sees chaos_

Oh, good. All is normal.

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**Author:** ![Emperor\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c2a13f/32.png) [@Emperor\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emperor_Penguin)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2003, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/45 "2003-04-29T23:19:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Peregrine \*  
> \*\*As a gesture of good will, The Dominion of Entautha offers a gift of fixed links to [The Empire of Old New Freedonia](http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=old_new_freedonia) and [The Kingdom of North Uitsera](http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=north_uitsera). \*\*

Heh… whoops.

Many thanks from Old New Freedonia. Here, have a penguin.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/46 "2003-04-30T09:22:34Z")

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Uh oh. We’ve just been joined by the rogue state [Republic of South Uitsera](http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/target=display_nation/nation=south_uitsera), which was created from the former Gentle Paradise of All Uitsera after a bloody 10-year civil war led by a band of separatist, fundamentalist brigands. Expect trouble.

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/47 "2003-04-30T11:48:08Z")

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I got a telegram from **Steve Wright**! How exciting - I didn’t know you could do that.

I still haven’t figured out how to send one back, mind.

pan

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**Author:** ![screech-owl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@screech-owl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/screech-owl)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/48 "2003-04-30T13:08:24Z")

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Great. My first attempt at creating a nation, and I am already a [corrupt dictatorship](http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi?pin=46237709&target=display_nation).

_sniff_  
\<wipes tear\>

I’m so proud of me. 😃

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/49 "2003-04-30T16:20:13Z")

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Man, what happened. Yesterday I was a Civil Rights Lovefest with ‘World Benchmark’ Political Freedoms and a sprawling, bureaucratically-choked corrupt morass of a government, and today I’ve been demoted to being yet another a Left-Wing Utopia with merely ‘Superb’ Political Freedoms and nothing more than an omnipresent government.

Where did I go wrong?

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/50 "2003-04-30T20:09:37Z")

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The ole Cross & Crescent is still working on outlawing political/civil freedoms at home as well. Basically, ask us any favor and we’ll vote against it 😃

Is there any Sea of cecil life on the Nationstates uBB forum? I’ve only looked at it once when Nationstates wasn’t working for a week. Otherwise, from the look of the sidebar topics, it has nothing to do with the game at all and everything to do with arguing over who’s gay and why Christians suck.

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**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/51 "2003-04-30T20:44:28Z")

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The Grand Duchy of Giedi\_Prime. I tried to make a map of the region; too many changes, unworkable requests and personal insults toward me made me rethink the project at the time.

I still have the page, and will update it if someone else wants to coordinate with me on locations and country size; maybe a board of countries organized like a condo association?

I’d also like to propose a game of Risk (or like Risk) using the map to handle conflicts. We could hash out the rules and have something more to do than answer the same three dilemmas over and over. We could base the army sizes on defense spending, economy, and population; determine which countries connect with each other, and battle out our differences.

What do you think?

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2003, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/52 "2003-04-30T21:02:47Z")

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It is my duty to rule over the [Holy Empire of Disgruntled Elves](http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi)

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/53 "2003-05-01T10:31:20Z")

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It sounds interesting **Steeler** , but speaking personally I would have no time to devote to such a game. Sorry :(.

pan

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2003, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/54 "2003-05-01T22:14:02Z")

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And the [debate](http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/pin=50689640/page=display_region) rages on…

Unfortunately **Steelerphan** , like **kabbes** I am intrigued by your idea but wouldn’t have nearly the time needed to develop and play a game such as you suggest.

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/55 "2003-05-02T08:16:34Z")

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Dammit, I want to read what happened between my last message about 16 hours ago and the oldest message on that list at this time (12 hours ago). Is there any way of doing this?

pan

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/56 "2003-05-02T22:06:36Z")

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Nope. But since the drama’s picked up I’ve been saving them. I’ll email you a .doc of the last couple days worth.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2003, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/57 "2003-05-02T22:41:21Z")

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I was actually thinking it might be worth our while for the principle parties to move the discussion to a thread in to NationStates forums. Solely because we wouldn’t keep scrolling off the details. Granted, our thread might sink off the forum page, but it’d be little effort to bookmark it. If anyone is interested, let me know.

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**Author:** ![MacSpon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@MacSpon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacSpon)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/58 "2003-05-03T00:03:37Z")

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I have the honour to be the ruler of **Sonderbaarg**. And we of Sonderbaarg are not cannibals. Really.

By the way, thanks to Theocratic Eggheads for the endorsement. What were you _smoking?_

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**Author:** ![Emperor\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c2a13f/32.png) [@Emperor\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emperor_Penguin)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/59 "2003-05-03T01:01:19Z")

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Man, my Department of Defense sure is getting uppity on me.

Time to go lay some smack down

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**Author:** ![White\_Lightning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@White\_Lightning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/White_Lightning)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2003, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-of-cecil-dopers-who-are-you/171311/60 "2003-05-03T01:36:01Z")

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**MacSpon** , you’re welcome. I don’t remember why I endorsed you; in the first couple of weeks I spent in the region I just endorsed anyone whose governing philosophies seemed well-matched with mine or who made a post that I liked. I may consider withdrawing my endorsement, though, since your commitment to the political freedom of your people seems lacking (and particularly if you continue to support the soon-to-be-ousted NewRlyeh ;))

**Jophiel** , I was thinking the same thing, except that from my limited experience the NationStates forum seems even less reliable than the SDMB. I don’t think it would be a bad idea to transfer our messages there periodically though. I’ve got the last couple days logged on my machine at work for reference purposes.

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