# Sea Shepherds; Innefectual self-important dipshits **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 15, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487 "2009-08-15T02:58:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/41 "2009-08-15T15:44:26Z")
> [@SmashTheState](#): > > You appear to have accused me of taking funds from the Ottawa Panhandlers’ Union, an organization in which I am on public record as being spokesperson, and giving it to the Sea Shepherds. If I did this, I would be in commission of a criminal act. You appear, to me, to be accusing me on a public forum of a criminal act. When I requested that you make it clear whether or not you have accused me of embezzling funds from the OPU, your response is, and I quote, “take it how you want.” > > I’m going to repeat my request. Please state whether or not you’re accusing me of embezzling funds from the Ottawa Panhandlers’ Union. ETA: _glove slap_ ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/42 "2009-08-15T15:44:59Z")
> [@SmashTheState](#): > > I’m going to repeat my request. Please state whether or not you’re accusing me of embezzling funds from the Ottawa Panhandlers’ Union. No. From the Schrodengers cat school of legal defense. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/43 "2009-08-15T15:46:08Z")
> [@whole\_bean](#): > > ETA: _glove slap_ Better yet. Dueling bloviations at high noon tommorrow. Spectators ear protection highly recommended 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/44 "2009-08-15T15:49:30Z")
> [@whole\_bean](#): > > Heh. I am one of these moderate liberals of which you speak. Near every word of **Scylla** ’s post rang true. No argument here really, just a single data point to suggest that what you think these people are accomplishing by way of PR might not be happening. Of course Smashthestate missed the whole point of the post. If someone who LIKES whales and hates whalers thinks the whale savers are a bunch of ineffective wankers, they gotta be pretty damn bad. And it makes a good arguement that they are doing more harm than good. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/45 "2009-08-15T15:52:01Z")
Did anyone else want to grab a screen shot of Paul Watson and caption it? SAD SHEPHERD IS SAD Some of the suggestions in the OP have been addressed. They’ve tried prop fouling, and I think they were marginally successful once. (The fouled prop was cleared quickly and the harpoon ship went on its way.) The other attempts they’ve shown have all failed. As far as shooting the stink-juice, that might be considered shooting at a commercial vessel; an act of piracy. Also, the Dutch government has forbidden anything from being thrown from _Steve Irwin_ at other vessels. The missiles have to be thrown from the inflatables. I haven’t noticed the registration of the 300C, nor do I know where the pilot is licensed. (Anyone noticed that he’s the ‘Aviation Director’ and not ‘Helicopter Pilot’?) In the U.S., it is illegal to drop things from an aircraft that might cause a hazard to people below. I’ll bet there are ICAO rules against it too. So aerial attack is out. Contaminating the dead whales with butyric acid as they float in the water might work, but they’d have to get very close. Also, I don’t think the SS crew have the fortitude to do it. I’m all for ending whaling. But IMO Paul Watson is a megalomaniac who uses naïve and gullible people to make himself feel important. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/46 "2009-08-15T15:53:13Z")
> [@whole\_bean](#): > > ETA: _glove slap_ Butyric acid at dawn, sir. Then we’ll smoke a bowl for TEH WAHLEZ! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/47 "2009-08-15T15:53:17Z")
> [@SmashTheState](#): > > You appear to have accused me of taking funds from the Ottawa Panhandlers’ Union… I didn’t even know Ottawa had a panhandle! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/48 "2009-08-15T16:16:18Z")
> [@SmashTheState](#): > > You appear to have accused me of taking funds from the Ottawa Panhandlers’ Union, an organization in which I am on public record as being spokesperson, and giving it to the Sea Shepherds. If I did this, I would be in commission of a criminal act. You appear, to me, to be accusing me on a public forum of a criminal act. When I requested that you make it clear whether or not you have accused me of embezzling funds from the OPU, your response is, and I quote, “take it how you want.” > > I’m going to repeat my request. Please state whether or not you’re accusing me of embezzling funds from the Ottawa Panhandlers’ Union. Embezzlement is the act of using funds or materials entrusted to you for personal gains. Donating to political causes is not usually embezzlement. Different Unions may have specific rules about use of dues. ---
**Author:** ![SmashTheState](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@SmashTheState](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmashTheState)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/49 "2009-08-15T16:22:35Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Embezzlement is the act of using funds or materials entrusted to you for personal gains. > > Donating to political causes is not usually embezzlement. Different Unions may have specific rules about use of dues. He answered, I’m satisfied with the answer, I consider the matter closed. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/50 "2009-08-15T16:27:12Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Of course Smashthestate missed the whole point of the post. > > If someone who LIKES whales and hates whalers thinks the whale savers are a bunch of ineffective wankers, they gotta be pretty damn bad. And it makes a good arguement that they are doing more harm than good. That was the entire point of Scylla’s OP. Not that he is a whale hater, which I’m, 99.999999999… percent sure he isn’t, but that the “sea shepherds” are incompetent buffoons. Hell, I like whales too. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/51 "2009-08-15T16:29:35Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > …Hell, I like whales too. Me too. Yum! ---
**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/52 "2009-08-15T16:47:35Z")
> [@SmashTheState](#): > > He answered, I’m satisfied with the answer, I consider the matter closed. It is not humanly possible for you to be a bigger douchebag. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/53 "2009-08-15T16:55:58Z")
> [@SmashTheState](#): > > He answered, I’m satisfied with the answer, I consider the matter closed. I accuse you of shamelessness and debauchery! There. I feel all better. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/54 "2009-08-15T17:42:00Z")
> [@SmashTheState](#): > > He answered, I’m satisfied with the answer, I consider the matter closed. He didn’t answer, Smashie. He said he wasn’t saying if he was saying you were or were not embezzling. ---
**Author:** ![newcrasher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@newcrasher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcrasher)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/55 "2009-08-15T18:07:06Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > Hell, I like whales too. They taste good! Like fishy chicken. ETA - \*\*Boyo Jim \*\*table for 2? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/56 "2009-08-15T18:17:28Z")
[QUOTE=SmashTheState] He answered, I’m satisfied with the answer, I consider the matter closed. [/QUOTE] Even if you didn’t consider the matter closed, what the hell would you DO? Donate money so some people on bikes could circle him and cry about how mean he is? Besides, aren’t you proud of committing criminal acts in the name of all that is good and square-pissing-off? ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/57 "2009-08-15T18:23:22Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > He didn’t answer, Smashie. He said he wasn’t saying if he was saying you were or were not embezzling. Yeah, you better make sure you go after him and annoy the crap out of him so we can watch and laugh. God, I can’t get enough of it! ETA - I nominate him for Best Asshole Ever, and I have seen them come and go on these here boards. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/58 "2009-08-15T18:45:55Z")
> [@SmashTheState](#): > > He answered, I’m satisfied with the answer, I consider the matter closed. Thank goodness you resolved this highly important and relevant issue. I’m sure **billfish768** is greatly relieved you weren’t forced to devote the vast resources of a jobless anarchist to prosecute him for saying something untrue about you on the Internet. Crisis averted. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/59 "2009-08-15T19:01:57Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > Thank goodness you resolved this highly important and relevant issue. I’m sure **billfish768** is greatly relieved you weren’t forced to devote the vast resources of a jobless anarchist to prosecute him for saying something untrue about you on the Internet. Crisis averted. Not one jobless anarchist, but a potential legion of them, if he is able to marshall the resources of the Panhandlers Union. Hmmm… a panhandlers union? Do you have to serve an apprenticeship? Do you split up the territory, with senior panhandlers getting favored corners? Are there dues? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487/60 "2009-08-15T20:43:29Z")
> [@SmashTheState](#): > > He answered, I’m satisfied with the answer, I consider the matter closed. Imagine this scene: James Bond, played by me of course. Evil take over the world guy, Panmember, played by Smashthesate. Bond: Oh shit, he’s got me now, I am all tied up ! (of course Bond just thinks this, not saying it) Panmember : Answer the question Mr Bond or my big scary laser will slice you up ! Bond : No ! All of a sudden, leaking balloon sound as now obviously fake giant inflatable laser starts to embarrassing go limp (heh) Panmember : Nevermind, I have better things to do! Bond works hard to stiffle laughs to keep just a bit of dignity to the whole scene. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sea-shepherds-innefectual-self-important-dipshits/506487.md?page=4)