# Sears:  A Libertarian Case-study

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sears-a-libertarian-case-study/663681>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 16, 2013, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sears-a-libertarian-case-study/663681 "2013-07-16T16:52:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sears-a-libertarian-case-study/663681/161 "2013-07-25T21:33:22Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> So if libertarianism fails for a business, it does mean that, at least, in some cases, it would fail for a country.

That doesn’t follow at all. Can you think of any political system that works well as a model for a company as well as for a society at large? If not, perhaps we shouldn’t be trying to compare them at all at such a high level.

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> Would you guys agree that you can’t have a libertarian dictatorship? That you can’t have a king from on high saying that you must be libertarian–you must become libertarian by choice?

Not necessarily. The example of the governor of Hong Kong was already given. And isn’t a constitution a form of dictatorship in that it proscribes certain government actions even if there is widespread political support? Inalienable rights are those which cannot be taken away even if a large percentage of the population wants to do so.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sears-a-libertarian-case-study/663681/162 "2013-07-25T21:46:29Z")

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> [@Human\_Action](#):
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> Neat, and good for him, but that means Bhutan would cease to be a dictatorship, and thus couldn’t be a libertarian dictatorship.

Maybe its an ironic dictatorship? 😉

“Do what I say or die! And what I say is you don’t need to do what I say!”

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**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2013, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sears-a-libertarian-case-study/663681/163 "2013-07-26T12:32:56Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Maybe its an ironic dictatorship? 😉
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> “Do what I say or die! And what I say is you don’t need to do what I say!”

It would probably take something like the conditions that existed in Hong Kong: a small corner of a far-flung empire, with the local governor free to implement his own policies without fear of overthrow, as he’s backed by the empire. That’s why you won’t see a libertarian dictator of an independent state, they’d be too easily overthrown.

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**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2013, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/sears-a-libertarian-case-study/663681/164 "2013-07-27T11:20:33Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Very interesting. Except department stores predate malls by kind of a lot, and the first malls had department store anchors.  
> Department stores got all the businesses in a city under one roof.  
> We have Westfield malls in the Bay Area. They market the mall, they try to get a good mix of stores, they set the tone of the mall,

I’m sorry, that was a language error. Perhaps I should have said ‘arcade’? Although that term has serveral distinct meanings too.

In either case, shopping mall or shopping arcade, they existed long before the popularity of the motor-car moved them out into large suburban locations surrounded by parking lots. Have a look at the original meanings:

> **[Definition of MALL](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mall)**
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> an alley used for pall-mall; a usually public area often set with shade trees and designed as a promenade or as a pedestrian walk; a usually paved or grassy strip between two roadways… See the full definition

> [@Voyager](#):
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> but do you have evidence that they do detailed retailing like a department store or specialty store does?

I’m not sure what you mean by detailed retailing, or how it is relevant to retail management. Here is a job add for a retail managment position:  
[https://westfield.taleo.net/careersection/2/jobdetail.ftl](https://westfield.taleo.net/careersection/2/jobdetail.ftl)

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